what muffler exhaust is this?

[rmaynard 15,518]

Don't we have a guy on here that makes repro's?

 

Toro is going to try to squeeze blood out of anyone wanting a muffler. They have gone up at least 500% since 2008. They haven't made new ones for years and the stock they have is old. Their cost did not go up, only their profit.

Edited November 1, 2021 by rmaynard

[Brockport Bill 1,668]

21 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

Don't we have a guy on here that makes repro's?

 

Toro is going to try to squeeze blood out of anyone wanting a muffler. They have gone up at least 500% since 2008. They haven't made new ones for years and the stock they have is old. Their cost did not go up, only their profit.

a prime example of supply and demand - plus, they know there is a specific, targeted, loyal, WH customer base that often, but not always, has limited options - so yes, you are rght  - Toro will squeeze every $$ they can -

[squonk 41,162]

27 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

Don't we have a guy on here that makes repro's?

 

Toro is going to try to squeeze blood out of anyone wanting a muffler. They have gone up at least 500% since 2008. They haven't made new ones for years and the stock they have is old. Their cost did not go up, only their profit.

He stopped making them due to material cost if I remember right.

 

Stolen from @Gregor Another pic of the muffler in question:

 

[Brockport Bill 1,668]

that certainly "appears" like the exhaust i have -- Parts Tree lists it as # 106918  for the C125  in your photo --- as well as other models ( c85, c145, c160 )  etc - hard to tell from diagrams -- 

[Brockport Bill 1,668]

i happened to see a C160 today and took some photos that shows a muffler pretty much a match to the exhaust muffler i had as a mystery at start of the thread

[ebinmaine 67,672]

7 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said:

muffler pretty much a match

That was what led me to the question on the outside diameter of your existing muffler.

 

I have a 1974 that I don't believe has ever been touched I also have a 1975 that has been restored and the muffler has certainly been replaced.

 

The 1975 that has been restored has a muffler that is substantially larger and to be honest really doesn't fit in the space allotted without being too close to the fuel lines.

This particular tractor was restored by a person who was a Wheel Horse Dealer and it's likely that it is a black hood style muffler which is larger around or, maybe that's all that was available at the time.

[Brockport Bill 1,668]

19 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

That was what led me to the question on the outside diameter of your existing muffler.

 

I have a 1974 that I don't believe has ever been touched I also have a 1975 that has been restored and the muffler has certainly been replaced.

 

The 1975 that has been restored has a muffler that is substantially larger and to be honest really doesn't fit in the space allotted without being too close to the fuel lines.

This particular tractor was restored by a person who was a Wheel Horse Dealer and it's likely that it is a black hood style muffler which is larger around or, maybe that's all that was available at the time.

i had mentioned the diameter was 4 1/4 --- the circumferance i just measured is 13 3/4 .. i did not have the muffler with me when i saw the C160 yesterday but it sure looked the same??

[Brockport Bill 1,668]

Oliver2-44 from Texas therorized it looked like his C160

[ebinmaine 67,672]

1 minute ago, Brockport Bill said:

i had mentioned the diameter was 4 1/4 --- the circumferance i just measured is 13 3/4 .. i did not have the muffler with me when i saw the C160 yesterday but it sure looked the same??

I'll post a couple pictures in a few minutes here.

 

Size and length and shape of twists and turns appears to be very very close in design but in my particular case it's the outside diameter of the can itself that's a lot larger.

 

I'll need to do some studying on this one in the next few days because I'm really hoping I can use it. I'm wondering if I can move it at all to make a little extra space.

I do like the nice deep quiet tone it has quite a lot.

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,672]

51 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said:

diameter

Here's a few pictures for you Bill.

First one shows the shape of the larger muffler that is what you have and I believe maybe a black hood style.

Ignore the fact that it's upside down.

 

 

 

Second pic shows the same muffler, cross section measurement. 4-1/4"

 

 

 

Third pic shows what I am more accustomed to seeing on the mid-70s C160s as original. 3-1/2" across. 

 

[squonk 41,162]

That is not a C-160 hood. That is a hood like a C-145

 

[Brockport Bill 1,668]

19 minutes ago, squonk said:

That is not a C-160 hood. That is a hood like a C-145

 

 

19 minutes ago, squonk said:

That is not a C-160 hood. That is a hood like a C-145

 

the hood decal said 160 but of course the hood could hav ebeen switched i suppose

[ebinmaine 67,672]

C160 and C161 have open hood slots like this here beast. 

Also less room for a muffler.  That's why I was surprised to find the larger muffler on the one I just got.   

 

 

[squonk 41,162]

You can also see the shaker plate mount the C160 doesn't use.

[71_Bronco 1,072]

I think the guy who did the repro's was @jay bee if I recall correctly. I bought one for when I get around to my Bronco 14 build.

[squonk 41,162]

31 minutes ago, 71_Bronco said:

I think the guy who did the repro's was @jay bee if I recall correctly. I bought one for when I get around to my Bronco 14 build.

Correct.

[Brockport Bill 1,668]

there have been some comments about a "smaller" exhaust - here's one i got this week - its a slight different neck and certainly smaller so this may the style some have referenced - dimensions are smaller at:  8" high x 3 1/2 " Diameter and 10 1/4 circumference

[squonk 41,162]

I have one of those. Think it fits a B-80

[ebinmaine 67,672]

21 minutes ago, squonk said:

I have one of those. Think it fits a B-80

That would explain the different outlet angle.