Snoopy11 5,714 #26 Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) Edited October 25, 2021 by Snoopy11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,725 #27 Posted October 25, 2021 If possible, it might be nice to post where we can go to actually read the law, so we know what we are talking about and we are really informed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #28 Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: post where we can go to actually read the law I'd rather go out and buy insurance 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,725 #29 Posted October 25, 2021 OK, all the guys that don't know what they are talking about...stand over here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,725 #30 Posted October 25, 2021 I think this is the truth... https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB1346 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,079 #31 Posted October 25, 2021 I find it quite disingenuous when guys have to keep editing posts to cover their tracks when they step over the line. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,725 #32 Posted October 25, 2021 I read the law in about 5 minutes...takes 6+ minutes to listen to a video from someone with no credentials just telling you what to think. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 9,981 #33 Posted October 25, 2021 Isn't that law referring to new equipment? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,725 #34 Posted October 25, 2021 Yes, after 2024...but they have a board looking over it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1995 520H+96+97 937 #35 Posted October 25, 2021 There are tractors , and cars already converted to electric. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACman 7,618 #36 Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Snoopy11 said: What is everyone going to do with their Wheel Horses? ...and such? @Maxwell-8 says, "PLEASE KEEP THE POLITICS AWAY FROM THIS TOPIC" Did I say amen??? Wasn't it @squonk who said, "let's keep butt-hurt politics out of a good thread!" Don sure wasn’t what I read a couple hours ago . I admit to editing my first post but all I said was I was going to Cali to sell my horses . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #37 Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) @squonk: I find it quite disingenuous when guys have to keep editing posts to cover their tracks when they step over the line. Perhaps a bit antagonistic...? Don Edited October 25, 2021 by Snoopy11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOB ELLISON 2,981 #38 Posted October 25, 2021 Everything is going electric so it's no surprise that this is here now. There is a summit meeting this weekend on climate change that Biden is attending. The only thing that puzzles me is if everything's electric where is all the electric coming from especially in the summer. My electric company ask me to conserve electricity because of high demand in the hot months . 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,547 #39 Posted October 25, 2021 I think we all agree - Let's just keep our 's running... forever... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #40 Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) Edited October 25, 2021 by Snoopy11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #41 Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) Edited October 25, 2021 by Snoopy11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #42 Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: I think we all agree - Let's just keep our 's running... forever... Yep, that is all that matters here. Don Edited October 25, 2021 by Snoopy11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #43 Posted October 25, 2021 Guys, I don't know about you... but I am abandoning this thread. I don't want to... but I don't like the attitudes/energy here. A couple of us guys here can't force productive rhetoric. I have better things to do. Thanks @Maxwell-8... good intentions... but not a place, nor many of the people who are mature enough. Some of you guys need to go sign up for a friggin' facebook account where you can antagonize all you want. I see why @nylyon Karl does not want political posts. Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #44 Posted October 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, BOB ELLISON said: Everything is going electric so it's no surprise that this is here now. There is a summit meeting this weekend on climate change that Biden is attending. The only thing that puzzles me is if everything's electric where is all the electric coming from especially in the summer. My electric company ask me to conserve electricity because of high demand in the hot months . A very good question! Generation and transmission infrastructure (electricity transmission, that is, not 8-speed or hydro) is not nearly robust enough nor are there plans to make it so, yet. These are among the many challenges to be dealt with here in the US and everywhere else in the world. China just committed to growing their generation using coal by 20%. Wired and Atlantic magazines, among others, have had so insightful and fact-laden articles about this very topic and its juxtaposition with climate change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,520 #45 Posted October 25, 2021 Its time to run Jim Kemp pipes on EVERYTHING !!!!! I just want to hear our Horses heartbeat !!! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #46 Posted October 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, johnnymag3 said: Its time to run Jim Kemp pipes on EVERYTHING !!!!! I just want to hear our Horses heartbeat !!! Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPINJIM 1,981 #47 Posted October 25, 2021 In the east, much of electricity is produced by coal burning generator plants. So how are electric cars saving the environment? I'm in favor of more efficient gasoline engines in both cars and small engines. That's why most outboard engines are now four-stroke instead of two-stroke. Nothing political here, just common sense. Jim 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACman 7,618 #48 Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Snoopy11 said: Yep, everything I said earlier is still in this thread. I don't believe that I have edited out anything. I edited 2 of mine to add content... ‘Oh sorry my bad hard to edit a deleted post do to what was posted . I know what exactly what I read and it’s gone . It wasn’t one of your now edited either. Can’t post my screenshot of it or I’ll be banned for actually showing the TRUTH ! Thanks Karl for doing a terrific job with this forum . I’ll just ban myself for a week as I have way bigger issues to deal with like keeping my lights on thanks to dumb politicians. Unfortunately fellas electric coming and there’s nothing we can do about it . There’s always going to be a need for non renewable resources but we need to change our ways to save them for our future and planet . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,198 #49 Posted October 25, 2021 For better or worse it seems that California Legislators have a way of passing laws that work their way east. If this becomes law the value of our beloved will increase because they will be the only gas powered equipment left once today's Big Box Store mowers have fallen apart. I did find it interesting that the State is considering rebates and incentives for "Commercial" lawn equipment users, why not homeowners too? Consistent with the regulations adopted pursuant to this section and relevant state law, the state board shall identify, and, to the extent feasible, make available, funding for commercial rebates or similar incentive funding as part of any updates to existing, applicable funding program guidelines for districts to implement to support the transition to zero-emission small off-road equipment operations. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites