Torque 1 #1 Posted October 21, 2021 I have a 605 chassis with some descent upgrades: K341 (1 1/8" output shaft), 10 pinion trans, 520 front beam and axles and now I'm looking to add a PTO. The tractor had a PTO at one time but the PO removed all. I'm currently running a 5/8" drive belt. Looking for advise on the best way to begin this upgrade. I'm comfortable grinding, bending and welding FYI. The PTO would possibly run a small hydraulic pump and mower deck. Is it possible to have this set up: Drive pulley all the time with PTO on command for the hydraulic pump and deck but able to engage the pump and deck separately? What parts do I need to look at? who can supply them? what's better an electric PTO or manual engagement? Any info will be appreciated - Thank you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,750 #2 Posted October 21, 2021 Here's one option. Since you have a K341 with a 1-1/8" shaft you should be able to put a standard WH manual PTO on that side of the motor. Probable good to use that one for the Mower deck. Then on the flywheel screen side of the motor get a stub shaft that bolts to the 4 holes in the front of the flywheel. Then you can put an electric clutch PTO pulley on that side for the hydraulics. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,999 #3 Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Off the top of my head it seems the best option for a PTO setup on that tractor is probably this type. Scroll down through the pics. The long bar handle provides the tension to compress the pulleys to the engine. Simple design and no funky linkage required. Fairly easy to adapt as well https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/1207-1966-1076/ This type of deck ( same type originally used on your tractor) uses a foot pedal to engage it so it can be run off the PTO pulley and engaged separately than the hydraulic pump. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/60740-1967-rm-367-rear-discharge-deck/ The pump can be powered off the second pulley on the PTO. Engaged all the time but if you have hydraulics for lifting implements and such then you probably want it running all the time anyway. I run 2 separate pumps. One for the FEL and the second for a back hoe. They could run off a single pump but I wanted to keep both implements completely separate and independent of each other. Another option for hydraulics is a self contained unit like a HY3 kit which was an add on option for the old tractors. Pump, reservoir, valve etc all in a small single unit. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/90125-hy3-pump/?tab=comments#comment-915600 Searching through the pics in the picture gallery can potentially set off the "light bulb" for ideas Edited October 21, 2021 by wallfish 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torque 1 #4 Posted October 22, 2021 20 hours ago, wallfish said: Off the top of my head it seems the best option for a PTO setup on that tractor is probably this type. Scroll down through the pics. The long bar handle provides the tension to compress the pulleys to the engine. Simple design and no funky linkage required. Fairly easy to adapt as well https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/1207-1966-1076/ This type of deck ( same type originally used on your tractor) uses a foot pedal to engage it so it can be run off the PTO pulley and engaged separately than the hydraulic pump. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/60740-1967-rm-367-rear-discharge-deck/ The pump can be powered off the second pulley on the PTO. Engaged all the time but if you have hydraulics for lifting implements and such then you probably want it running all the time anyway. I run 2 separate pumps. One for the FEL and the second for a back hoe. They could run off a single pump but I wanted to keep both implements completely separate and independent of each other. Another option for hydraulics is a self contained unit like a HY3 kit which was an add on option for the old tractors. Pump, reservoir, valve etc all in a small single unit. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/90125-hy3-pump/?tab=comments#comment-915600 Searching through the pics in the picture gallery can potentially set off the "light bulb" for ideas Great information here! I have wondered what all was connected to that pedal as presently the engagement pulley and brackets are long gone. The engine presently has a three belt pulley which is possibly the simplest route for a mower deck would be to locate the parts of the engagement pulley. Then my last belt slot would go to a pump which would always be engaged. I do like your setup with the PTO. Basically your trans belt always has power but your two pumps engagement is controlled by the PTO - Is your drive belt 5/8 and the pump belts 1/2? Would a manual PTO from the crank still work with a deck for my tractor without too much fuss? I've looked into pickup up a good used manual PTO for 1.125" crank, 5/8 drive belt and 2 accessory 1/2 but no luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
