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ebinmaine

I still think I'd change over to the 5 lug hubs while I had the chance especially given consideration to how powerful that particular piece of machinery is.

 

You've got three studs at 3/8 inch versus five studs at 7/16 in.

 

Or...

Keeping in mind I do understand and agree that you want to use your own stuff if you can, I'd be a lot more prone to measuring out exactly what I NEED and trying to maybe use those half inch thick machine bushings. 

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ebinmaine
1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said:

But, I am thinking... since I only need a certain amount of spacing... maybe buying something like this and drilling it myself... 35$...

 

I do that before I spent $130 for sure

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Snoopy11
1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

I still think I'd change over to the 5 lug hubs while I had the chance especially given consideration to how powerful that particular piece of machinery is.

 

You've got three studs at 3/8 inch versus five studs at 7/16 in.

 

Or...

Keeping in mind I do understand and agree that you want to use your own stuff if you can, I'd be a lot more prone to measuring out exactly what I NEED and trying to maybe use those half inch thick machine bushings. 

Yep, still thinking about that bushing idea... seems like that might be my best bet...

 

Don

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ebinmaine
1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said:

Yep, still thinking about that bushing idea... seems like that might be my best bet...

 

Don

It would be your least expensive way to do it. I don't know for sure that it would be your BEST bet.

 

 

If you really want to use your own hubs and wheels and still spend the least amount of possible I think your best bet is going to get a solid ring somehow.

 

A solid ring of metal is going to be much much less prone to moving around than 3 little pieces. 

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Snoopy11

Be nice if something like this would work...

 

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Snoopy11

Also thinking I can make my own...

 

1" Aluminum Disc x 5" Diameter, Circle, Round, 6061 Aluminum

 

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ACman
5 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

Be nice if something like this would work...

 

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Don

 

 

That’s what you need if they are made of aluminum or steel . What’s your center to center for bolt holes and the through hole diameter ? Find a shop with a cnc plasma table or laser if you just want a spacer made . I’m sure there’s something close to you . My son’s table will cut up to 3/8” steel if he’d ever use it.

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Snoopy11
3 minutes ago, ACman said:

What’s your center to center for bolt holes and the through hole diameter

The lugs are 3 inches apart, with the center hole being 2-1/2 inches...

 

I ain't good at Millimeters...

 

Don

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ACman

Ask your local metal supplier if they know of someone . My supplier has a table on site .

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ebinmaine
3 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said:

Not only the bolts, but mainly the round middle circle on the hubs keeps the wheel central

 

I have to respectfully disagree that the center hole has anything to do with keeping the wheel aligned other than while you are trying to bolt it up.

I've run quite a good many sets of Wheels on different vehicles over the years where the center hole was substantially larger than the lineup hole on the vehicle.

 

It occasionally presents a challenge trying to make sure all of the 5, 6 or even 8 lug nuts are properly seated. Once all the lug nuts are in place, the center hole has no holding power on Wheel position.

 

 

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Maxwell-8
4 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

I have to respectfully disagree that the center hole has anything to do with keeping the wheel aligned other than while you are trying to bolt it up.

I've run quite a good many sets of Wheels on different vehicles over the years where the center hole was substantially larger than the lineup hole on the vehicle.

 

It occasionally presents a challenge trying to make sure all of the 5, 6 or even 8 lug nuts are properly seated. Once all the lug nuts are in place, the center hole has no holding power on Wheel position.

 

 

I wouldn't trust on bolts alone on spacers, for sure not these spacers: 

Image 41 - 7/16" ID x 3/4" OD STAINLESS STEEL 303 STANDOFF SPACER SPACERS BUSHINGS (2pcs.)

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pfrederi

How many Horsepower are you putting through this setup???

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roadapples

I pretty sure Cub cadet doesn't have a centering "thingy" on their hubs. Just the lugs. And that's what most of the pullers are using...

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Snoopy11
42 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

How many Horsepower are you putting through this setup???

51 at 7,500 rpm...

 

Don

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Snoopy11
1 hour ago, ACman said:

Ask your local metal supplier if they know of someone . My supplier has a table on site .

My neighbor owns a tool and die shop... might ask him to do some work for me...! :dance:

 

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Snoopy11

Whatchyall think about 6061 aluminum for making some 1 inch spacers out of?

 

Don

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8ntruck
57 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

Whatchyall think about 6061 aluminum for making some 1 inch spacers out of?

 

6061 will be fine for a spacer.

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8ntruck
9 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

I welcome more of your thoughts... if you have anything else that you would like to add here! :handgestures-salute:

 

Don

Dang it.  I just wrote a long reply, but my tablet sneezed and it disappeared.

 

Short answer -  I don't think those spacers in the picture would provide proper support for the wheel, which could result in broken spacers or cracks in the wheel.  If the ATV guys are having good luck with them, fine.  Personally, I would not use them.

 

In my opinion, the best wheel spacer is a plate with the desired thickness and a matching O.D. to the flange on the hub.

 

Steel bushing type spacers should be OK, provided that the O.D. of the bushings is large enough to support the mount pads on the wheel.  Bushing type spacers would work better on 5 or 6 lug wheels than on 3 lug wheels, as they would support more of the wheel.

 

If your wheels have conical nut seats, the lug nuts will center the wheel accurately enough for use on a garden tractor.

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Handy Don
1 hour ago, 8ntruck said:

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If your wheels have conical nut seats, the lug nuts will center the wheel accurately enough for use on a garden tractor.

Yes, I agree. At garden tractor speed, a slightly off-center wheel is undetectable!

Not a WH, but FWIW my Snapper rear-engine rider has 3-bolt rear hubs with no centering flange. Holes in the wheels don't have conical seats, either, but the shanks of the lug bolts have no thread for the last 3/16" under the cap so the bolts are very snug in the wheels' bolt holes. 

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ronhatch

How about thinking outside the box and try cable chains? Much less clearance would be required. That's why I use them on my modified 867 WH. They work great!

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Lee1977
On 10/14/2021 at 8:03 PM, Snoopy11 said:

Here is an old picture, just in case you guys need to verify the three bolt triangle...

 

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Don

Check the bolts on that wheel they look to be equally space.  The round hoods use the standard 12" wheel 5 holes on 4.5" circle.

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Lee1977
On 10/14/2021 at 8:03 PM, Snoopy11 said:

Here is an old picture, just in case you guys need to verify the three bolt triangle...

 

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Don

Check the bolts on that wheel they look to be equally space.  The round hoods use the standard 12" wheel 5 holes on 4.5" circle.

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