Snoopy11 5,714 #26 Posted October 15, 2021 At first, I was thinking about something like this... which I have in the shop now... dunno what you guys think? Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #27 Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: I did buy some longer 3/8 -24 bolts yesterday as well! So... I am prepared to do... something... Don Just remember whatever you put in there for extra length is going to add extra leverage. Just now, Snoopy11 said: When you say: What exactly are you talking about... like steal... nylon spacers...etc.? Don I suppose there's multiple materials that would work just fine but I would lean towards steel just because of the ruggedididity. The others might be able to chime in. I want to call em machine bushings or something. Basically like a really thick fat washer that's all one solid piece of material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #28 Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, Snoopy11 said: At first, I was thinking about something like this... which I have in the shop now... dunno what you guys think? Don That's what I was thinking of but made out of steel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #29 Posted October 15, 2021 No matter what you use for a bushing material you definitely should retorque the wheels often. Softer more flexible material seems to me would cause the lug nuts to loosen faster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #30 Posted October 15, 2021 I'd change over to 5 hole hubs. Plenty of spacers available 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #31 Posted October 15, 2021 Yeah, and just keeping in mind... I only need a little bit of room there for tire chains... nothing drastic. I don't need to go out 4 inches... just a little clearance between the box frame at the rear wheels... And, I would say... I do not think it will be something that will stay on there all year... Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #32 Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, roadapples said: I'd change over to 5 hole hubs. Plenty of spacers available I would... but that would mean 1 I would need to buy rims... 2 I would need to get my tires swapped to the new rims... Just something I didn't really want to do... I kinda wanted something that would work with my stock stuff... (not trying to be lazy or anything... but you know how it is...)... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #33 Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, roadapples said: I'd change over to 5 hole hubs. Plenty of spacers available I've had that thought too Mr Apples. Is that something that can be done easily with these? 1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said: Yeah, and just keeping in mind... I only need a little bit of room there for tire chains... nothing drastic. I don't need to go out 4 inches... just a little clearance between the box frame at the rear wheels... And, I would say... I do not think it will be something that will stay on there all year... Don Having been around heavy trucks my entire 5 decades and been operating them for nearly two of those, I assure you that lug nuts DO come loose. When I swap wheels and tires around on any of our tractors I go back and tighten the lug nuts again after an hour or two of usage. I almost always get at least one or two of the lug nuts to move a little. With a three-hole hub like that I'd be wanting to check those a LOT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #34 Posted October 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: wanted something that would work with my stock stuff. One how's my favorite phrases Use what ya have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #35 Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: check those a LOT That... or end up going in the pond... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #36 Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, ebinmaine said: Use what ya have I am beginning to think it would be a little easier if I swapped everything... LOL Still, I am hard-headed... Don 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #37 Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: I would... but that would mean 1 I would need to buy rims... 2 I would need to get my tires swapped to the new rims... Just something I didn't really want to do... I kinda wanted something that would work with my stock stuff... (not trying to be lazy or anything... but you know how it is...)... Don Might not cost that arm and leg... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #38 Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, roadapples said: Might not cost that arm and leg... Whatchya mean? Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #39 Posted October 15, 2021 Eb, I am thinking something like this... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #40 Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: Whatchya mean? Don You said that about having spacers made Edited October 15, 2021 by roadapples 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #41 Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, Snoopy11 said: Eb, I am thinking something like this... Don Yeah that's what I had in mind. Largest outside diameter you could use without interference and smallest possible inside diameter to prevent movement as much as you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #42 Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, roadapples said: You said that about making spacers made Yes sir, I am still waiting for their response... I might end up calling them... you know how Fridays are... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #43 Posted October 15, 2021 180$ plus shipping for custom made spacers from U.S. Wheel Adapters. This would use my stock lug bolts, and would provide me with new studs and lug nuts which I would bolt onto. Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #44 Posted October 15, 2021 It's your money and it's your tractor so don't get me wrong here but I wouldn't even put thought to that. That's too rich for my blood. What size are your rear tires? I'd be willing to bet you can get a set of hubs, 5 lug rear wheels in the correct size from someplace like e-trailer, and the spacers and not even be that far off of that $200 figure... And you'd have a much stronger setup to boot. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #45 Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: That's too rich for my blood. My thoughts exactly. 'specially since I am only wanting this for snow chains... a couple uses per year... Don 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #46 Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: What size are your rear tires? 18x8.5-8 Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #47 Posted October 15, 2021 Do a Google search for Martin wheel. You'll likely find some in the size you need with the correct 5x4 1/2 pattern. What size is that axle shaft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #48 Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: What size is that axle shaft? I think it is 1 inch... Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,605 #49 Posted October 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: I think it is 1 inch... Don I'm not familiar with the setup on those 3 hole hubs. If that has a regular keyway in the hub like any of the larger five lug cousins do then you could use a set of HD hubs from a 310-8. Lighter Duty old style five star or starfish looking hubs you could use off of something like a B80 or a lot of other three or four-speed tractors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #50 Posted October 15, 2021 So, I talked to them again. They told me that they had it wrong... if I get a 1 inch spacer out of billet... it would be 130$... With the 1 inch spacer, I don't need new studs, whereas with a 2 inch spacer, I would need new studs to bolt the wheels onto. What are your thoughts on that... EB? Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
