Wanted one for a long time...

[Wishin4a416 2,191]

Nice find! Enjoy.

[DennisThornton 4,769]

4 hours ago, Skipper said:

I have a 50" grader here, that I am going to fit to it soon. Will share how here then

 

What do you need? Pics of belt routing or?

I'd like to know whether 82 or 83.

What fits it and what one might think but does not. 

And anything that is particularly C-195. 

[8ntruck 7,016]

What does the wiring look like?  I ran across a reference that said the early production ones used black wires with white numbers on them.  The later production machines used colored wires instead of the numbers.  No idea when the chance was made, though.  '83? '84?

 

The C195 I picked up about a month ago has the numbered wires.  Based on on unconfirmed production numbers, I think it is am '82.   The series 1 KT19 also supports it being an early production machine.

Edited October 17, 2021 by 8ntruck

[Skipper 1,788]

12 hours ago, DennisThornton said:

I'd like to know whether 82 or 83.

What fits it and what one might think but does not. 

And anything that is particularly C-195. 

 

Sorry for late reply.

 

As you also have come up with on year, it is not an 84. The 82 and 83 was made under same type number and parts list, so I do not know of any differences.

 

What fits it is rather simple:

 

The rear axle don't have room for a traditional bracket, and the frame is longer, so mounting the 36" tiller, rear axle attached grader blades, and snow/dozer blade in front, demands that you make something creative. Not even sure you can route the small tillers belt under the rear axle, but seriously, when you have tried the big one........

 

But despite these limitations, of which you can overcome the most, there are tons of stuff your 195 WILL do that most others wont.

 

Basically you can use any cat 0 implement on the back of it. If it is powered, it needs to be 2000 rpm. Be aware that one or two manufacturers back in the day had their version of 2000rpm pto, that ran the other way. You can use both by flipping the belt, but it wont be correct.

 

Brinley made a good size set of tools for cat 0. DD-1000 double disc, and a PP-1200 12" one bottom plow. Besides that, it nicely takes a 40 gallon sprayer on the back, and of cause the 50" tiller. Carryall, or reverse scoop bucket will work too. Only thing is if you load up the 3pt too much, you need weights on the front, as it quickly gets very light toed. Also I made a 3pt tow bar for attaching trailer and so on. That makes a little tip possible when unloading. Also got a 50" + broom/sweeper front mount for it, and a couple trailers, and a wide 3pt. gravel rake.

 

Blower. It will mount up, but I have no experience with those. You might have to use other belt length, and the push rod that lift the blower might need to be stretched a bit  Other than that, it will run it just fine.

 

It's basically your imagination that limits the use of the 3pt

 

Special for the 195: Well, belts are longer. It has the one return from deck pulley on frame, and you can remove that and use a spring loaded 520 type for the 60" deck instead. The engine pto clutch is a cone type, and you have to be creative and have new pucks made for it when worn out, or go to an electric pto. I chose the latter, as it holds more torque, and is much easier/convenient to operate, but I know many feels they are not gentle enough. Rear axles are longer than others, so these are 195 only. You can find D series and gt14 axles to replace with, if you are up for making new key ways, should bad things happen. Hubs are 6 lug, and also the same as D series. Rest of the transaxle is same as any other Eaton 1100 unit, except from dipstick. Also the mid mount bracket for the rear pto belt is special. It resembles that for the little tiller, but it is not the same. Hope you got that with it also. Front wheel bearings are also rare to find, and I have only come across 1 set. The lift for deck etc, is also a special setup, compared to other C or classic models. gas tank and hydraulic valves are also a special to the 195.

 

KT related: top off the oil a bit rich, and keep off too steep banks. And if it starts knocking, turn it off instantly. They have a tendency to get a loose nut on the con rod. Other than that, they are the best sounding sowing machines out there IMO. Should it go boom, then a magnum 20 with remote oil filter kit, will dress up just like the series 1 and 2. Same engine basically, just with some deserved upgrades;-)

 

Nice upgrades for it includes (but not limited to): Gear reduction steering and some 520 type tie rods with real ball joints. If going gear reduced steering on it, you need to make the axle that goes to the front longer. Trailer spindles up front is also a nice thing for it, and the front wheel bearings are as mentioned, not easy to find so.... But if you get front wheel problems, and want original looks, you can also use 520 rims and spindles. They have OK bearings also. Thrust bearing setup on the front spindles is also a great cheap upgrade.

 

Need pics or more info, just shoot

 

 

  

 

Edited October 17, 2021 by Skipper

[DennisThornton 4,769]

4 hours ago, Skipper said:

Thanks for the quick reply!
As hard as the C-195s are to find here I would have NEVER expected SO much info to come from Europe!  Thank you!

If there are no differences between 82 and 83 I guess I don't care anymore...

Yeah, most of the room in the rear is already taken.  I have other WHs with several attachements and other tractors with attachments so this C-195 will never be asked to do everything.  And I had swapping attachments, though 3-points are handy.

I have lots of clevis and Cat-1 attachments but NO Cat-0s.  At least now I can keep an eye out and/or make or adapt stuff.  

I have read about the 200o RPM but didn't know it gets more complicated with the CW vs CCW.  Guess nothing is simple...  I have a big portable sprayer already but I'm thinking that pto might drive a BIG high pressure sprayer, generator and air compressor.

The carryall was mentioned and I have two of them.  I can see that being very handy but yes, I see the need for front weights.

Would LOVE to have a front sweeper!

Thanks a lot for all the info.  Right along with what I was looking for!

 

 

  

 

 

[DennisThornton 4,769]

12 hours ago, 8ntruck said:

What does the wiring look like?  I ran across a reference that said the early production ones used black wires with white numbers on them.  The later production machines used colored wires 

Nothing unusual about the wiring.  Not much in there!