stevasaurus 22,764 #51 Posted October 15, 2021 I have a feeling all the Regal Red is on one of those cargo ships waiting to get unloaded. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #52 Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brockport Bill said: what you mean by "lift" ? Does that mean it peels or disintegrates or what? Have you ever seen a 'wrinkle finish' ? That's what can happen... the previous coats of paint wrinkle up and it looks horrible. In some cases it can work just like paint remover. The old paint will 'de-bond' from the surface and peel off like Saran Wrap. 1 hour ago, Brockport Bill said: What is non cured - does that mean the Kraylon can is ok on older WH paint thats cured Rustoleum takes an awfully long time to 'cure', or harden, to it's final 'dry'. It seems to start from the top down to the base. You can generally add a second coat WITHIN 20 MINUTES (sometimes shorter depending on temperature and humidity) or AFTER 72 HOURS but I generally wait at least a WEEK. I've had cases where the first coat has wrinkled even after 72 hours. I always do a LIGHT first coat, wait about 10 minutes, and then spray a wet (thicker) second coat. You always want to spray AWAY from the 'just applied' paint to keep any over spray off the wet coat as it will give it a 'texture'. Never go back and 'touch up' the area you just applied the wet coat to. If it needs a third coat, WAIT ... and WAIT some more. Like a week or so. After at least 72 hours you can wet sand LIGHTLY with 800 grit and then wait another day or two before tack ragging before another coat. Patience is key. Try to rush the process with Rustoleum and you'll be sorry! 1 hour ago, Brockport Bill said: does that mean the Kraylon can is ok on older WH paint thats cured I would say most likely yes. I'm not sure what type of paint that WH used, but it's tough stuff. I've never had issues painting over it with anything. Of course you want to wet sand and feather out any edges before you do. Edited October 15, 2021 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,668 #53 Posted October 15, 2021 great info -thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,216 #54 Posted October 15, 2021 Plenty of Regal and Sunrise Red on the shelf of my local ACE . Sadly, the price us up 39% from a year ago.....but hey, I'm gettin a 5.9% increase in my SS next year. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,512 #55 Posted October 16, 2021 20 hours ago, Brockport Bill said: i have just entered the world of spray cans and WH so can you tell a newbie what you mean by "lift" ? Does that mean it peels or disintegrates or what? What is non cured - does that mean the Kraylon can is ok on older WH paint thats cured....... but not newer paint............ like 24-48 hrs, or one hour? I'm just learning all this stuff... thanks I think @Jeff-C175 covered your questions very well. All that I can add is that many of us are too impatient to wait for paint to cure. Some alkyd (oil based) paints can take up to 30 days to fully cure. That is why I will use an acrylic urethane or acrylic enamel automotive type paint for my show quality paint jobs. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,668 #56 Posted October 16, 2021 4 hours ago, rmaynard said: I think @Jeff-C175 covered your questions very well. All that I can add is that many of us are too impatient to wait for paint to cure. Some alkyd (oil based) paints can take up to 30 days to fully cure. That is why I will use an acrylic urethane or acrylic enamel automotive type paint for my show quality paint jobs. CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC -- MAKE, MFG ETC? THANKS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,512 #57 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) On 10/16/2021 at 11:53 AM, Brockport Bill said: CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC -- MAKE, MFG ETC? THANKS PPG Automotive. Shop-Line or Omni. Color - Wheel Horse Red #70234. This can be mixed in acrylic urethane or enamel. Here is an example of 70234 urethane - Other PPG colors are Ford New Tractor Red #71969 mixed in enamel - and urethane Edited October 17, 2021 by rmaynard 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,668 #58 Posted October 17, 2021 super looking Bob - the tractor too!!! Haha -------------------- great job -- i am all envy - the shine gloss is spectacular - even the cream/almond rims are awesome!! As a side note i read your inventory list -- see you have 416H ----- I am working on a 416 H right now - a 1991 - Bill 1 hour ago, rmaynard said: PPG Automotive. Shop-Line or Omni. Color - Wheel Horse Red #70234. This can be mixed in acrylic urethane or enamel. Here is an example of 70234 urethane - Other PPG colors are Ford New Tractor Red #71969 mixed in enamel - and 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,087 #59 Posted October 18, 2021 Bill's 701 just makes me wanna drag mine out and get started restoring it every time he puts a pic of his up! Maybe next year... Now quit it Bill! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
