Gregor 4,846 #51 Posted October 6, 2021 Well I ordered on, but none of the above. After reading reviews, many people find it hard to see the keyboard with white letters on a silver back round. That's the last thing I need with my hunt and peck style of typing. I hope this one works. HP 17t Laptop, 17.3" HD+ Non-Touch Display, 11th Gen Intel Core i7-1165G7 Quad-Core Processor, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB SSD + 2TB HDD, Webcam, HDMI, Wi-Fi 5, Bluetooth, Windows 10 Home, Black 4 times yesterday I got this message. "Your computer has encountered a problem, and will restart..........yad yada yada........." I think I may be living on borrowed time. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #52 Posted October 8, 2021 Coming to you live from my new puter. Still learning the ropes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #53 Posted October 9, 2021 Now I have a whole new problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,201 #54 Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Gregor said: whole new problem. Check your system clock and make sure it's correct. Sometimes authentication problems are caused by this. Check out the system tool called "Snipping Tool" ... saves the trouble of having to take a picture of the screen then uploading, etc... very handy tool! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #55 Posted October 9, 2021 My Mediacom TV service has been going in and out today. Maybe that had something to do with it? Internet is also Mediacom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,201 #56 Posted October 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Gregor said: Maybe that had something to do with it? Extreme possibility! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #57 Posted October 12, 2021 I have had my new computer, and printer, (HP 8025e) for several days now, and I am very satisfied with both. The screen on this computer seems much crisper, and easier to read. That seems to be getting more and more important to me. I am going to take my 10 year old Asus to a shop, and see if it is cost effective to have it upgraded. Not that I need it really, but if it can be done, I think it would be a good computer for one of the grand kids. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #58 Posted October 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Gregor said: good computer for one of the grand kids I agree with the sentiment, but it only makes sense if it can run current software reasonably quickly (Win 10 etc.). You may want to find out that its ok for them to have a computer and what they would use it for, as well, to help with the decision. I just "sold" my one-year old MacBook Air to my older grandchildren (I upgraded to a machine with a more powerful graphics processor to support my new 3-D modeling binge). This was only after getting their parents' explicit permission. Per their parents, the allowed uses will be learning word processing and spreadsheets (as well as keyboarding skills) plus learning how to exchange emails (with a carefully curated contact list--including grandparents!), FaceTime (same list), and perform some tightly-supervised internet searching and browsing. No social media at this time. I happily endorsed this thoughtful approach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #59 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) @Nahhee So when I got this new computer I thought my connection problems were over. Once again, I thought wrong. It happened again this morning. "Connection Timed Out" It only lasted about 20 minutes this time. I ran that tracet program. Here are the results. I ran it twice, got the same thing both times. I don't know what any of it means, but this is it. I could connect to any other site. Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1288] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\gwwie>tracert www.wheelhorseforum.com Tracing route to www.wheelhorseforum.com [108.160.152.98] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 4 ms 10 ms 31 ms 192.168.0.1 2 21 ms 18 ms 21 ms 173-27-244-1.client.mchsi.com [173.27.244.1] 3 28 ms 31 ms 25 ms 172.30.87.9 4 29 ms 26 ms 27 ms 68-66-73-70.client.mchsi.com [68.66.73.70] 5 32 ms 42 ms 29 ms po10.chgil001er1.mchsi.com [68.66.73.122] 6 32 ms 37 ms 29 ms ae10.cr9-chi1.ip4.gtt.net [69.174.18.237] 7 40 ms 29 ms 33 ms chi-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.248.88.102] 8 48 ms 46 ms 51 ms atl-b24-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.113.18] 9 50 ms 50 ms 52 ms internap-ic305718-atl-bb1.ip.twelve99-cust.net [213.248.81.146] 10 41 ms 43 ms 43 ms border2.ae2-bbnet2.acs.pnap.net [64.94.0.93] 11 41 ms 46 ms 42 ms knownhost-3.satedge2.acs.pnap.net [64.94.3.94] 12 43 ms 51 ms 42 ms 64.74.203.46 13 45 ms 41 ms 46 ms ssd37-ga.privatesystems.net [64.74.200.37] 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 This is what it says when I CAN connect. Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1288] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\gwwie>tracert www.wheelhorseforum.com Tracing route to www.wheelhorseforum.com [108.160.152.98] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 8 ms 8 ms 14 ms 192.168.0.1 2 33 ms 21 ms 25 ms 173-27-244-1.client.mchsi.com [173.27.244.1] 3 24 ms 36 ms 24 ms 172.30.87.9 4 28 ms 29 ms 32 ms 68-66-73-70.client.mchsi.com [68.66.73.70] 5 26 ms 32 ms 26 ms po10.chgil001er1.mchsi.com [68.66.73.122] 6 31 ms 27 ms 29 ms ae10.cr9-chi1.ip4.gtt.net [69.174.18.237] 7 35 ms 33 ms 32 ms chi-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.248.88.102] 8 45 ms 51 ms 47 ms atl-b24-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.113.18] 9 51 ms 45 ms 47 ms internap-ic305718-atl-bb1.ip.twelve99-cust.net [213.248.81.146] 10 46 ms 47 ms 51 ms border2.ae2-bbnet2.acs.pnap.net [64.94.0.93] 11 55 ms 50 ms 52 ms knownhost-3.satedge2.acs.pnap.net [64.94.3.94] 12 43 ms 43 ms 44 ms 64.74.203.46 13 48 ms 44 ms 42 ms ssd37-ga.privatesystems.net [64.74.200.37] 14 40 ms 41 ms 52 ms host.wheelhorseforum.com [108.160.152.98] Trace complete. C:\Users\gwwie> Edited October 31, 2021 by Gregor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #60 Posted October 31, 2021 Basically, the good one shows all the internet intermediary connections up to and including the wheelhorseforum "service". The "bad" one shows that the Forum service is not accepting the "tracert" request for information from the last successful connection (ssd37-ga.privatesystems.net [64.74.200.37] -- the number sequence is an internet protocol "address".) After reading your post, I tried this from my system (a Macintosh Air M1) over my Verizon FIOS network connection and got the timeout even though I'd been reading posts immediately before. Then, I was locked out of the forum for at least 20 minutes! I am assuming that the system that hosts the forum is not happy with tracert requests, possibly assuming they constitute part of a denial of service attack (where a site is flooded with requests which can overwhelm its capacity) and locks out any requests from the "suspect" computer. I'd recommend NOT using tracert for now. Did you get a good set of anti-virus software installed on your new computer? If not, it is possible that one of the sites you visit regularly has installed malware that is piggy-backing on your normal use of Red Square to try some mischief and is getting your system blocked. I regularly clean up a friend's computer and find all sorts of stuff--she is a kamikaze clicker and has never seen a popup she won't click on. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #61 Posted November 1, 2021 59 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Did you get a good set of anti-virus software installed on your new computer? I have Malwarebytes Premium 4.4.9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #62 Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Gregor said: I have Malwarebytes Premium 4.4.9 Whoa! very good stuff. So a malware takeover is very unlikely. You've reached the end of my expertise. The next level of testing requires turning on and monitoring a logging system and when I've needed that I went to network engineers. Wish I could offer more help! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echris 1,425 #63 Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) Hey @Gregor, IT Pro here. Your connection is crappy. There's way too many hops and your response times (in ms) is terrible. From my ISP, it's one hop to Red Square, <1ms. Your is 14 hops with 20-50 ms EACH. It seems like a DNS issue. If you know how to change your internet DNS settings on your router, try changing them from your ISP's DNS (Write down the existing settings first!) to: Primary DNS Server: 9.9.9.9 Secondary DNS Server: 149.112.112.112 That's a free public DNS service called QUAD9 which is often much faster than your ISP's DNS. What is DNS? DNS stands for Domain Name Service and it maps IP addresses to hostnames. OK, but what does that mumbo jumbo mean? All computers find each other by IP address, but humans can't remember IP addresses easily. DNS was created to associate an IP address with an easily remembered hostname. i.e. Hostname: wheelhorseforum.com = IP address 108.160.152.98 By typing in wheelhorseforum.com, your computer asks the DNS server where wheelhorseforum.com lives. The DNS server replies 108.160.152.98 and takes you there. HOW you get there is determined by what DNS server your computer is asking. If you know your router make and model, I can help you navigate the settings as long as you know the password to log into the router settings page. Edited November 6, 2021 by echris 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #64 Posted November 6, 2021 The router is actually owned by the Internet Service Provider. I doubt that I can access any settings, but I will look at it for a make and model number. Thank You Greg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echris 1,425 #65 Posted November 6, 2021 40 minutes ago, Gregor said: The router is actually owned by the Internet Service Provider. I doubt that I can access any settings, but I will look at it for a make and model number. Thank You Greg There might be a label on it with username and password. Most ISP's provide that these days. If it has built-in wifi, you can certainly access the settings. Don't post any passwords here though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #66 Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) This is simply a test. Pay no attention to it. Tecumseh parts.ods OK I changed my mind. Someone pay attention to it. Can anyone else open and read that file? Edited November 26, 2021 by Gregor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,201 #67 Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Gregor said: open No, don't know the file format. What is an .ods file? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #68 Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gregor said: This is simply a test. Pay no attention to it. Tecumseh parts.ods 65.73 kB · 2 downloads OK I changed my mind. Someone pay attention to it. Can anyone else open and read that file? 1 hour ago, Jeff-C175 said: No, don't know the file format. What is an .ods file? ods extension stands for OpenDocument Spreadsheet Document format These open in Excel or in many other spreadsheet programs, including Google Sheets. I've converted it to a PDF (that should download or, depending on preferences, open directly in most browsers) and attached it here... TechumsehODS.pdf Edited November 26, 2021 by Handy Don 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #69 Posted November 26, 2021 I am compiling a spread sheet on furnace run times. I got to thinking though, maybe no one could open it, even if I did post it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #70 Posted November 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Gregor said: I am compiling a spread sheet on furnace run times. I got to thinking though, maybe no one could open it, even if I did post it. What program are you using to create the sheet? PM me if you need an assist getting it into a specific format. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #71 Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Handy Don said: What program are you using to create the sheet? PM me if you need an assist getting it into a specific format. I'm not even sure how to answer your question. All I know is, it says, "LibreOffice Calc" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #72 Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gregor said: I'm not even sure how to answer your question. All I know is, it says, "LibreOffice Calc" You answered perfectly. Interestingly, that app can handle the ODS format (use the File/Open command then select the file). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #73 Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 3:42 PM, echris said: There might be a label on it with username and password. Most ISP's provide that these days. If it has built-in wifi, you can certainly access the settings. Don't post any passwords here though. Not a good idea to run a router with generic factory admin / password settings, my D-link router is a landfill find, obviously password protected by the previous owner. The following address ( http://192.168.0.1 ) typed into my browser brings up the following window, shown below, since my router was previously owned I have no clue as to what the previous owner has set the password too. I simply press the factory reset button with a paper clip. If you have not accessed your router to set up a personal password, you are open to all sorts of skullduggery can take place and none of it pleasant. Wardriving, Wardrivers travel around looking for Wi-Fi signals, plotting the Wi-Fi access points on a map — also called access point mapping — and gathering data on those networks. Wardrivers stay on the move, usually in vehicles, to find those Wi-Fi networks along their route. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #74 Posted November 26, 2021 Your ISP does not want to know your router password, they know who you are via the router's MAC address. D-Link Default Password List (Valid November 2021) D-Link Model Default Username Default Password Default IP Address COVR-3902 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 COVR-C1203 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DAP-1350 admin [none] 192.168.0.50 DFL-300 admin admin 192.168.1.1 DGL-4100 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DGL-4300 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DGL-4500 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DGL-5500 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DHP-1320 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DHP-1565 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DSL-2750U admin admin 192.168.1.1 DI-514 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-524 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-604 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-614+ admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-624 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-624M admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-624S admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-634M1 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-634M1 user [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-7012 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-7012 [none] year2000 192.168.0.1 DI-704 [none] admin 192.168.0.1 DI-704P [none] admin 192.168.0.1 DI-704UP admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-707 [none] admin 192.168.0.1 DI-707P admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-711 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-713 [none] admin 192.168.0.1 DI-713P [none] admin 192.168.0.1 DI-714 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-714P+ admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-724GU Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-724U admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-754 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-764 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-774 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-784 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-804 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-804HV admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-804V admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-808HV admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-824VUP admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DI-LB604 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-X1560 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-X1870 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-130 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-330 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-412 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-450 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-451 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-501 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-505 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-505L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-506L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-510L [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-515 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-600 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-600L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-601 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-605 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-605L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-615 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-625 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-626L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-628 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-635 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-636L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-645 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-651 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-655 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-657 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-660 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-665 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-685 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-808L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-810L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-813 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-815 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-817LW Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-817LW/D Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-818LW Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-820L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-822 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-825 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-826L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-827 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-830L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-835 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-836L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-842 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-850L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-855 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-855L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-857 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-859 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-860L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-865L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-866L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-867 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-868L admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-869 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-878 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-879 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-880L Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-882 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-885L/R admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-890L/R Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-895L/R Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-1260 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-1360 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-1750 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-1760 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-1950 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-1960 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-2640 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-2660 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-2680 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-3040 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-3060 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-L1900 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-LX1870 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-X1560 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-X1870 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-X4860 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DIR-X5460 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 DSA-31003 admin admin 192.168.0.40 DSA-31003 manager manager 192.168.0.40 DSA-3200 admin admin 192.168.0.40 DSA-51003 admin admin 192.168.0.40 DSA-51003 manager manager 192.168.0.40 DSR-1000 admin admin 192.168.10.1 DSR-1000N admin admin 192.168.10.1 DSR-250N admin admin 192.168.10.1 DSR-500 admin admin 192.168.10.1 DSR-500N admin admin 192.168.10.1 EBR-2310 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 G2562DG admin admin 10.0.0.2 GO-RT-N300 Admin [none] 192.168.0.1 KR-1 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 M15 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 R15 [none] [none] 192.168.0.1 TM-G5240 [none] admin 192.168.0.1 WBR-1310 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 WBR-2310 admin [none] 192.168.0.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,216 #75 Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) With physical access you can "factory reset" nearly any browser, but changing the admin password is basic router hygiene to limit unwanted access (go ahead and put it on a piece of masking tape on the bottom of your router if you are worried you'll forget it--it's remote access you want to prevent, not physical access). As @bc.gold noted, the possible range of mischief is hard to explain but nearly all of it is bad news--and it can often be done from anywhere in the world with an internet connection. Edited November 26, 2021 by Handy Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites