My plow day junk

[slim67 2,735]

This is a work in progress Raider 10 with a 8 hp predator that I set up for an upcoming plow day event in October. I have some 23s on the back in the photo but probably will put the 26s back . I made a lift cable for it tonight and have to check the plow adjustments so hopefully it’s ready. If I don’t put the the 26s on ,I’m thinking of going back to the original front axle as I don’t like the way the front track is wider than the rear.

[kpinnc 12,088]

2 hours ago, slim67 said:

I’m thinking of going back to the original front axle as I don’t like the way the front track is wider than the rear.

 

You can always add spacers. I don't like the front track wider than the rear track either. These are 5x4.5 by 2 inches.

 

Edited September 23, 2021 by kpinnc

[Gregor 4,846]

None of my Wheel Horses will accept 26" tires without rubbing on the seat pan, but then I don't have a Raider 10 either. Did you have to do a modification to adapt the 26s ?

 

Of course I have not tries 26" Deestones.

Edited September 23, 2021 by Gregor

[ebinmaine 67,598]

5 hours ago, kpinnc said:

You can always add spacers. I don't like the front track wider than the rear track either. These are 5x4.5 by 2 inches

That was my first thought as well. 

@slim67 I keep a list things needed with fleabay links if you want it. 

5 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

 

 

I change every tractor we build over to lugs and studs. No more wheel bolts. Much easier to swap or install wheels. 

 

 

[Gregor 4,846]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

I change every tractor we build over to lugs and studs. No more wheel bolts. Much easier to swap or install wheels. 

 

 

I am in the process of doing that as well.

[slim67 2,735]

1 hour ago, Gregor said:

None of my Wheel Horses will accept 26" tires without rubbing on the seat pan, but then I don't have a Raider 10 either. Did you have to do a modification to adapt the 26s ?

 

Of course I have not tries 26" Deestones.

I have had them on this tractor and another and they are too close for comfort. I had a set of Goodyear’s and they cleared. I’ve used aluminum wheel spacers on my golf cart builds. 

[slim67 2,735]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

That was my first thought as well. 

@slim67 I keep a list things needed with fleabay links if you want it. 

 

I change every tractor we build over to lugs and studs. No more wheel bolts. Much easier to swap or install wheels. 

 

 

Thanks Eric 

[Pullstart 62,906]

If it works out for ya, there’s @WHX??’s plow day in a couple two-three weeks too!  I’d say the skinny track will help the plow find it’s sweet spot easier.  

[squonk 41,151]

You can add spacers to the fender pan to raise it for the larger tires too.

[Achto 27,601]

Nice looking plow rig.

 

Where is the plow event in Oct?

[slim67 2,735]

43 minutes ago, pullstart said:

If it works out for ya, there’s @WHX??’s plow day in a couple two-three weeks too!  I’d say the skinny track will help the plow find it’s sweet spot easier.  

I’m wondering if this wider axle will keep the rear too far out to the left when following the furrow.

[slim67 2,735]

28 minutes ago, squonk said:

You can add spacers to the fender pan to raise it for the larger tires too.

This is a flip up rear fender but I have though about swapping out the body work for a fixed set and adding some unistrut for spacing. Thanks for the suggestion.

[slim67 2,735]

19 minutes ago, Achto said:

Nice looking plow rig.

 

Where is the plow event in Oct?

Thanks Achto, it’s coming along. Seems like there’s never enough time. Hopefully get more done this winter. The event is at a dairy farm in western Pennsylvania put on by the Western Pennsylvania garden tractor association. I have looked and that was the nearest to me. They were inviting to say the least so it should be a good time.

[squonk 41,151]

Looks like they have several plowing events during the year. 

[kpinnc 12,088]

3 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

9 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

 

I change every tractor we build over to lugs and studs. No more wheel bolts. Much easier to swap or install wheels. 

 

Agreed. Night and day difference instead of annoying bolts. Getting a wheel "started" with factory bolts just flat out sucks. Add any additional weight, it becomes much worse.

[slim67 2,735]

39 minutes ago, squonk said:

Looks like they have several plowing events during the year. 

Yes they do . Too bad there couldn’t be an event at next years big show

[Pullstart 62,906]

21 minutes ago, slim67 said:

Yes they do . Too bad there couldn’t be an event at next years big show

The grounds board gets upset when a puddle gets a rut.  I understand their dilemma, because they have to repair it… but no way they’d allow us to turn the ground.  

[WHX?? 48,828]

1 hour ago, slim67 said:

The event is at a dairy farm in western Pennsylvania

Take your camera! 

Big fan of studs and spacers here too. 

[Pullstart 62,906]

2 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Take your camera! 

Big fan of studs too. 

 

easy now Uncle Jim…

[Pullstart 62,906]

Just thinking.  Putt Putt is a shorter wheelbase 8 hp / 8 speed mutt kind of like your Raider here.  I usually pull a 10” plow, but it’s not easy on anything.  Make sure you have a good belt and I’d advise that 26” tires might be too much once that plow is in the ground.  I also have a smaller engine pulley, but either way it’s tough work on the tractor 

[slim67 2,735]

2 hours ago, pullstart said:

Just thinking.  Putt Putt is a shorter wheelbase 8 hp / 8 speed mutt kind of like your Raider here.  I usually pull a 10” plow, but it’s not easy on anything.  Make sure you have a good belt and I’d advise that 26” tires might be too much once that plow is in the ground.  I also have a smaller engine pulley, but either way it’s tough work on the tractor 

Thanks Kevin. I think I’m going to sell a set of 26s and stay with 23s. I also have a 10 inch plow. 

[slim67 2,735]

So awhile back I scored some NOS Carlisle 26 inch ags for this tractor for a really good price, thinking if I couldn’t use them then I’d resell them. Well it turns out on this particular tractor that tires that big don’t allow the rear fenders to fully tilt backwards so I can check diff oil. I found a set of 23 inch Carlisles with wheels used once or twice on a pulling tractor. The wheels have the extreme negative offset like my 520 rear wheels which evens out the stance and gives it that much more width. The guy traded me even for them since he has a D200 with a loader and backhoe.  It worked out for both of us. He also is into vintage garden tractors and had several I think everyone here would appreciate including a Kitty Track for parts/ restoration. He is friends with a member here and attends the same local show that I do. Turned out to be a good day.

[slim67 2,735]

I tried the linseed oil treatment and have to say I like it especially since I couldn’t do a nice paint job to save my life. Maybe I just need more patience but they have never been show quality when I did do one. I found this can downstairs and have no clue as to how old it is but I didn’t see an expiration date. This is my first linseed oil attempt.

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

9 hours ago, slim67 said:

linseed oil

 

Once it cures real well you may be able to buff up a little more shine.

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by Jeff-C175

[WHX?? 48,828]

Can looks as old as the tractor Slim. Linseed does work, looks great and a fair to middlin metal protector  but does have it's drawbacks. It attracts dust and does need to be reapplied occasionally.  

I would suggest you stay with 23s on the rear but eventually go with tri ribs on the front. Tri ribs are easier to control in the furrow. Those turfs are going to want to "plow" as well if soft soil. 

Gotta like your front weights tho!