chipwitch 73 #1 Posted September 6, 2021 Does anyone have pictures of the OEM transmission clutch lever handle that was on the C models? It sits just ahead of the seat right of center and disengages the idler pulley to the drive belt? Or, is there an OEM supply of this sort of thing out there? I don't see how it's supposed to lock in the disengaged position unless it's using the handle (which is missing) as part of the latching mechanism. Any illumination is appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,004 #2 Posted September 6, 2021 It is an "over Center" action. When you pull up and back it latches to release you have to pull up again and push forward a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipwitch 73 #3 Posted September 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, pfrederi said: It is an "over Center" action. When you pull up and back it latches to release you have to pull up again and push forward a bit. Transmission clutch, not the PTO clutch. Mine can't be an over-center unless something is missing or modified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipwitch 73 #4 Posted September 6, 2021 47 minutes ago, pfrederi said: It is an "over Center" action. When you pull up and back it latches to release you have to pull up again and push forward a bit. Okay, now I see it! Thanks. Requires a pretty good amount of force to pull it up, especially without a knob. Do you know if knobs are still available? Aftermarket identical substitute? If anyone has an OEM knob, I'd be interested in doing a 3d model of it and fabricating one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,004 #5 Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, chipwitch said: Okay, now I see it! Thanks. Requires a pretty good amount of force to pull it up, especially without a knob. Do you know if knobs are still available? Aftermarket identical substitute? If anyone has an OEM knob, I'd be interested in doing a 3d model of it and fabricating one. Get a wooden spool from the other half's sewing kit. Cut in half and bolt to the lever Glen Pettit had them for sale...may now be transferred to Wheel horse parts and more you wpuld have to ask. Edited September 6, 2021 by pfrederi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheelhorseman 3,211 #6 Posted September 6, 2021 They are still available new https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/8693-8722-911747-clutch-knob-assembly-for-wheel-horse/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipwitch 73 #7 Posted September 6, 2021 I think the idler pulley is the wrong one for this tractor. The diameter is too large for the over-center lock to work. The pulley makes contact with the frame when you try to disengage. Either that or someone has altered the linkage in some way. Parts all look professionally manufactured but you can never tell. I can see the frame broke at the transmission mount at some point and someone welded and bolted some angle iron on to reattach it but not in any way that alters how the lever linkage works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipwitch 73 #8 Posted September 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Get a wooden spool from the other half's sewing kit. Cut in half and bolt to the lever Glen Pettit had them for sale...may now be transferred to Wheel horse parts and more you wpuld have to ask. I thought this was a "restoration" part of the forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,663 #9 Posted September 6, 2021 Just now, chipwitch said: I think the idler pulley is the wrong one for this tractor. The diameter is too large for the over-center lock to work. The pulley makes contact with the frame when you try to disengage. Either that or someone has altered the linkage in some way. Parts all look professionally manufactured but you can never tell. I can see the frame broke at the transmission mount at some point and someone welded and bolted some angle iron on to reattach it but not in any way that alters how the lever linkage works. The idlers are different on tractors without the drive clutch. The pulley also mounts in a different spot on the idler arm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipwitch 73 #10 Posted September 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, wheelhorseman said: They are still available new https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/8693-8722-911747-clutch-knob-assembly-for-wheel-horse/ That's what I was looking for! Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,183 #11 Posted September 6, 2021 I have the same issue on the C-195 I bought a couple week ago. The idler pulley is hitting the flange on the frame before the lever can go over center. Jack's Small Engine Repair lists knobs and levers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #12 Posted September 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, wheelhorseman said: They are still available new https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/8693-8722-911747-clutch-knob-assembly-for-wheel-horse/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,878 #13 Posted September 6, 2021 @chipwitch , in addition to fitting new parts , go over function detail with , belt guard removed , also aerosol lubricate every movement and function , make the rust run out, found that to be a big part of smooth easy clutch function , just my own experience , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
