C160 make over again

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

Well I've decided to start on my 1977 c160 after sitting outside covered up by a tarp. I've finally got room in my garage to get it in. This will be my last horse I can do because of my health. 

As most of you know I had to stop making the replacement seats because it just got to much for me to work outside. I can only work for an hour at a time then I have to rest. Its really hard for me to breathe if the humidity is high and its been really bad here in Michigan. 

I got this 1977 c160 about 5 years ago and was going to keep it for a parts tractor but my 1974 c160 is running like a top so I can't part this 1977 and I would rather fix it and sell it to someone that needs one. I will need a front wheel and the starter that was on it someone hit it probably because it wouldn't turn over but they broke the magnets inside of it.( dummys)

Anyways I will have to get these  parts for sure.

I know it runs good because shortly after I got it I took the part's off my 1974 and got it running. I drove it around the yard and it ran fine.

I can't paint or wire brush it because of the dust and paint fumes so that is going to be a problem. Just thought I would share this with everyone. 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

This one is far better then my 1974 I did here in many years ago.

My 1974 before and after pictures 

[kpinnc 12,088]

C-160... Hydro or 8 speeds, they are awesome! I'd keep them both!

[stevasaurus 22,764]

Sorry to hear about your health issue Bob.  I find it hard to breath in the hot humid air also...I think it is Covid related for me.  I am looking forward to September and October, etc.      Take care and only do what makes you feel good.

[ebinmaine 67,598]

11 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

Sorry to hear about your health issue Bob.  I find it hard to breath in the hot humid air also..

.  I am looking forward to September and October, etc.      Take care and only do what makes you feel good.

Agreed. Me too. 

Allergies run well through the family and I was nice enough to find some a few years back. 

Temps above 85 are tough to handle when hoomidd. 

 

Take care of yourself and work slowly. 

I'll be here poking along watching. 

 

 

[squonk 41,151]

Why not fix it mechanically and forget about the looks. You'll never get the amount of time and materials back out of it. And if you have breathing issues, why push it.

[Handy Don 12,235]

Bob, I get how humidity and dust and fumes can really put a load on a respiratory system and make it all but impossible to pursue our interests.

 

On a dare I tried the 3m Versaflow TR-300 at a trade show for a few minutes and was surprised that I liked how it worked to force filtered air into my face. This one has separate units for the pump/blower and the face shield. The Trend (sold by Rockler, below) is a one-piece thing. Both use rechargeable batteries and replaceable filter elements for dust and vapors.

 

Bluntly, they are not cheap, but impressive at what they do. There are several manufacturers with different styles and features. Something like this might help you be more comfortable while you are working.

 

Good luck!

 

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/respiratory-protection-us/products/papr/

 

https://www.srsafety.com/products-se/powered-air-purifying-respirator-2551.html

 

https://www.rockler.com/trend-air-circulating-airshield-pro-34492

 

 

 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

Thanks @squonk

Thats probably what I will have to do but I need parts to get it up and running.  Like the front wheel is rusty and I'll have to replace it as well as the starter 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

@Handy Don

Them are nice but it's not filtered air that i need it's oxygen. I have a portable oxygen generator and a floor one that I have to use from time to time. 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

@squonk I just couldn't stand it any longer. I don't like rustled I have nice weather and a lot of time so I decided to do all I could before cold weather is here. But I did have the common problems like the tower broke where it attached to the frame, the  plate where it attaches to the transmission was cracked and badly repaired by the previous owner. The front axle pin was badly worn and would eventually have fallen out. I'll admit I'm not doing a great job cleaning and  painting but it should have many more years from what I've done. Wheel horse painters never used any primer. They just painted bare metal.  Well at any rate here's some pictures.

the bottom picture is the axle pin with the forked plate. The pin has a grove in it and the forked plate locks it in place with a bold .my 74 is one piece the plate is welded to the pin. 74 and 76 parts  manuals show one piece welded pin.

I could never find a 1977 c160 parts manual. 

If anyone has one I'd like a copy just to see the difference .

[kpinnc 12,088]

I would say that axle pin is shot!

 

Of course they are the same across about 80 percent of these tractors. Shouldn't be too hard to get one. 

[Gregor 4,846]

I think this is what you want, but I'm not sure.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2021 by Gregor

[Gregor 4,846]

My computer is not being very friendly this morning. Must be Monday.

 

Try this again

 

C-160 Manual

 

There it is. Maybe

 

 

Edited September 12, 2021 by Gregor

[ebinmaine 67,598]

Looking great so far. 

 

74 and 77 chassis were the same from what I remember.

We disassembled both to make my  Cinnamon Horse C160. 

We used a 77 chassis below 74 sheet metal. 

 

The pin should be readily available from one of us or Lincoln at A to Z. 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

Thank you @Gregor 

That's just what I needed. But the pin assy is the same as the 1974 manual. that plate that holds the pin in place is what destroyed the pin. It was obviously a Bad design .

they must have had extra ones and just used them up. @ebinmaine yes all the parts from 1974 -- 1977 are interchangeable. The only difference is the finder on my 1974 has hinges to raise the finder to check trans fluid. I'm not sure if 1975 or 1976 has the hinges. The 1977 doesn't. 

[rjg854 11,384]

my 76 doesn't, by I think @squonk 's  76 does

[ebinmaine 67,598]

32 minutes ago, rjg854 said:

my 76 doesn't, by I think @squonk 's  76 does

Yepp. 

74 and 75 had the tilt seat pan/ fender. 

Somewhere in 76 was the changeover. 77 was no tilt. 

[squonk 41,151]

2 hours ago, rjg854 said:

my 76 doesn't, by I think @squonk 's  76 does

 

I also have the non 76 Hood ornament 

 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2021 by squonk

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

Trying to clean everything and paint as I fix the little things. Waiting on my  pin for the for the axle. I ordered and received the key switch and  starter. Waiting on the rear axle seals,idler pully and switch pig tail. I still need to order the ball joints and maybe the front hitch plate.

The front hitch plate hole is oblong from  the pin wobbling. 

[kpinnc 12,088]

Looking good!

 

I never understood what the ring clip on the front of the axle pivot pin was for. That being said, you can get 3/4 cold rolled steel at most any hardware store and weld that tab back onto it. You could always drill a hole and put a pin in place of the clip on the front.

[ebinmaine 67,598]

4 hours ago, BOB ELLISON said:

front hitch plate hole is oblong

 

2 hours ago, kpinnc said:

weld that tab

 

Bob, you have access to a welder?

You can repair the front plate as well. 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

18 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

Bob, you have access to a welder?

You can repair the front plate as well. 

I do have a mig welder  and I've thought about welding it but I don't have a 3/4 drill bit so it would have to be hand filed. I may do it anyways but I'm finding its taking a lot of time receiving stuff I orderd. And I'm afraid I won't be done before cold weather. I don't think I'll get the hood or finder finished this year. 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

20 hours ago, kpinnc said:

Looking good!

 

I never understood what the ring clip on the front of the axle pivot pin was for. That being said, you can get 3/4 cold rolled steel at most any hardware store and weld that tab back onto it. You could always drill a hole and put a pin in place of the clip on the front.

That axle pin is different than any I've ever seen. Its a 2 piece pin with the C clip in front.

But I did order a pin from a fellow member. His has the welded plate to bolt on.

[kpinnc 12,088]

1 hour ago, BOB ELLISON said:

That axle pin is different than any I've ever seen. Its a 2 piece pin with the C clip in front.

But I did order a pin from a fellow member. His has the welded plate to bolt on.

 

Glad you found one! 

[BOB ELLISON 2,981]

Well I'm making some progress. Its the little things that take so long. Cleaning parts and painting and waiting for them to dry is on going 

We have been blessed with good warm weather but thats changing today. I'm trying to get it wired,new gas lines,carb cleaning and reassemble all the little brackets. Lots of pictures before and after.  I don't think I'll get the hood and finder sanded or repainted this year. I cleaned the engine but I'm not going to repaint it now,maybe next year. I'll rebuild the carb because the rubber gaskets are dry rotted. 

I did have some extra bronze bushings for the throttle shift and its nice and tight now.