About to get a wheel horse

[Mustang67ford 234]

On 9/1/2021 at 1:41 PM, pullstart said:

  I’d give that transmission tunnel area a good pressure washing, followed by a transmission fluid flush and refill.  We like to lift the front end as high as safely possible, there’s a hump cast into the transmission.  Flush it by running diesel or kerosene through and run it in circles in all gears, high and low, left and right circles.  Drain again and fill with 1-1/2 to 2 qts of gear lube.  I believe 140 weight is spec, but I run 90 weight with no issue.  I’ve heard of some people running 30 weight even.  After everything is clean and fresh, keep an eye on the axle seals for any seepage.  The picture of the rear end looks like the right side might be wet.  Seals aren’t a terrible job, so long as you can remove the wheel hub from the axle!

Thanks, will do.  I assume you raise it to drain both times ( current lube and diesel).  How much diesel, 2qt?  I was reading the manual.  It appears the oil is sae 30 if over 32f so I plan to run rotella straight 30.  As for rear end, will run straight 90.  The drivers side seal looks wet to me so will probably need to change it.  Just use a slide hammer to remove the axle hub?  Is there a cotter ring to keep it on the axle?  Any trick for removing the old seal?

Edited September 3, 2021 by Mustang67ford

[Lee1977 6,659]

 

There is only a C-clip holding the other end of the axle in so you can hammer the hub off.  Has to be pulled off with the pressure on the end of the axle. If you check the forum there are quite a few home made designs 

that work well for hub pulling. You can try a normal gear puller, but if the hub does move you can also break the hub. So check out the options and don't get in a hurry to get the hub off and break it.

Edited September 3, 2021 by Lee1977

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,043]

You do not want to pull the hub off the axle.

You need to push the axle out of the hub.

[953 nut 55,229]

 

[AHS 1,440]

@Mustang67ford The 414 should last you forever! It is an incredible machine, plenty of torque! The K series motor, the 8 speed transmission! You can’t go wrong with that!! As long as you grease the zerks and oil the tie rod ends, ( as well as any other moving part in it!) You will learn, do some studying on Wheel Horses. I’ve learned so much on RS! Soon, you’ll be adding another Wheel Horse, and another one… and you get the point!😀

[slim67 2,735]

12 hours ago, 953 nut said:

 

That guy is a genius. That’s oustside the box thinking 

[kpinnc 12,049]

I would think running 30w in a manual transmission would cause any leak to get worse. 90w will cling to the gears and get pulled up to the smaller parts in the top of the tranny, and tolerate the shearing forces much better. 

 

Also skating a flat file over the keyway and where the set screws contact the axle after you get the hub off and key out will help protect the new seals during installation. Use an o-ring pick to get the old seals out.

 

Also- be sure and replace the shifter boot. 

[Mustang67ford 234]

On 9/7/2021 at 4:36 AM, kpinnc said:

I would think running 30w in a manual transmission would cause any leak to get worse. 90w will cling to the gears and get pulled up to the smaller parts in the top of the tranny, and tolerate the shearing forces much better. 

 

Also skating a flat file over the keyway and where the set screws contact the axle after you get the hub off and key out will help protect the new seals during installation. Use an o-ring pick to get the old seals out.

 

Also- be sure and replace the shifter boot. 

Thanks.  I intend to use SAE 30 rotella in the motor, not the tranny.

[kpinnc 12,049]

2 hours ago, Mustang67ford said:

Thanks.  I intend to use SAE 30 rotella in the motor, not the tranny.

 

I must have misread that. My apologies.

 

Rotella is good stuff. You won't have any issues there.

[TJ5208 1,824]

I was thinking the same thing for my tranny about what I'll run in it

[TJ5208 1,824]

On 9/1/2021 at 1:41 PM, pullstart said:

  I’d give that transmission tunnel area a good pressure washing, followed by a transmission fluid flush and refill.  We like to lift the front end as high as safely possible, there’s a hump cast into the transmission.  Flush it by running diesel or kerosene through and run it in circles in all gears, high and low, left and right circles.  Drain again and fill with 1-1/2 to 2 qts of gear lube.  I believe 140 weight is spec, but I run 90 weight with no issue.  I’ve heard of some people running 30 weight even.  After everything is clean and fresh, keep an eye on the axle seals for any seepage.  The picture of the rear end looks like the right side might be wet.  Seals aren’t a terrible job, so long as you can remove the wheel hub from the axle!

[Mustang67ford 234]

Well, took longer than expected, but finally got it.  I think I have a charging issue.  Will start a post on it.