No Low Box.

[Stormin 9,981]

  My C-81 which I use with a finger bar, has decided not to engage low box. Had a chat with our resident trans guru, Stevasaurus, and Squonk. The general consensus was a broken selector fork. 

  Today I decided to remove the trans. I'd already removed the finger bar. This morning front end was jacked up left for the oil to drain. This afternoon started on removing the trans.

  Progress at end of play.

 

 

 

  I was pleased to find the hubs slid of easily with a little light help from a three legged puller. The drive pulley like wise. When the hubs had been fitted, the shafts had had a smear of oil.

  The trans is now propped up on end to drain any oil left in.

  I'm not going to give a blow by blow account, as a full rebuild is already cover by Stevasaurus in tutorials.

 

   

[WHX?? 48,828]

17 minutes ago, Stormin said:

pleased to find the hubs slid of easily

99% of the battle right there... Let us know what you find. 

Doubt you have the same problem as I did here...

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by WHX??

[squonk 41,151]

I love the smell of gear oil in the morning! It smells like.............................................like gear oil! 

[stevasaurus 22,764]

You've got it by the short hair now Norm.    Have the shallow side down when you open.  

[squonk 41,151]

May have to take it to Earl Scheib's World of Trannies! 

[ebinmaine 67,602]

3 hours ago, squonk said:

I love the smell of gear oil in the morning! It smells like.............................................like gear oil! 

I've noticed over the past few years that gear oil in the afternoon smells a lot like gear oil in the morning.

 

Keep us posted Norm...

[squonk 41,151]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

I've noticed over the past few years that gear oil in the afternoon smells a lot like gear oil in the morning.

 

Keep us posted Norm...

Any when you get it on your coveralls, you smell it until the coveralls are in the landfill! 

[Stormin 9,981]

1 hour ago, stevasaurus said:

 Have the shallow side down when you open.  

 

Shallow side?? Brake or drive??

 

[Pullstart 62,910]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

May have to take it to Earl Scheib's World of Trannies! 

Not sure if that’s pc talk any longer Squnky!

[roadapples 6,983]

2 hours ago, Stormin said:

 

Shallow side?? Brake or drive??

 

Brake up, drive down....

[adsm08 2,069]

14 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I've noticed over the past few years that gear oil in the afternoon smells a lot like gear oil in the morning.

 

Keep us posted Norm...

 

Nonsense. They smell totally different.

 

We service open diffs in the morning, limited slip in the afternoon. The friction modifiers really change the smell.

[Stormin 9,981]

Got it apart this morning. Used some Stanley blades to break the seal. Then a couple of screwdrivers to open it up a bit more then two large chisels.

 

 

Here's what I found.

 

 

   Only welded on one side and the weld hadn't taken hold. Only on were you can see the missing piece. If I can't get one from the Toro dealer I may get a mate to weld it up.

[ebinmaine 67,602]

14 minutes ago, Stormin said:

weld it up

IF the part isn't excessively worn, and IF you can get it cleaned up, degreased, and sitting straight I'd go ahead and weld it instead of replace it. 

[71_Bronco 1,072]

I'm sure I don't have to tell you, but wouldn't be a bad idea to check everything else inside the trans while you got it open.

 

Glad you found the problem part. Nice when its blatantly obvious so you aren't pulling our hair out figuring out what's wrong.

[squonk 41,151]

If that fork was completely broken off nORMSTER ,it's a good thing you didn't drive the tractor around anymore! 

[WHX?? 48,828]

42 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

sitting straight I'd go ahead and weld it instead of replace it. 

Not with my welding skills tho! 

That one end does look bent and worn tho so maybe not a bad idea to look for a replacement? 

[Stormin 9,981]

  The fork itself is/was slightly bent. If I do get it welded I won't be doing it. Mig would be the best way and I don't posses one. I now have the part number thanks to Squonk, so off to Carlisle in the morning and hope I'll be lucky.

  Rest of the box is clean and in good condition.

 

[Stormin 9,981]

Quote from Toro this morning. £90.  It's now with an ex-workmate of mine to weld. He's very good with small stuff and cheap. He doesn't charge me.

[Handy Don 12,235]

7 minutes ago, Stormin said:

He's very good with small stuff and cheap. 

He doesn't charge me.

He'll need a pint to celebrate, o'course after the weld is done!

[Stormin 9,981]

5 hours ago, Handy Don said:

He'll need a pint to celebrate, o'course after the weld is done!

 

He doesn't drink.

[WHX?? 48,828]

If it doesn't look great when it's done tho Norm don't put it back in. I'm sure we could find a decent used one over here. 

Just ask @Racinbob or myself how many time we had to reopen a box cause things weren't right. Then there's the time the wrist watch got left in one....  

[Racinbob 11,093]

15 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

If it doesn't look great when it's done tho Norm don't put it back in. I'm sure we could find a decent used one over here. 

Just ask @Racinbob or myself how many time we had to reopen a box cause things weren't right. Then there's the time the wrist watch got left in one....  

Even in my dreams I have opened these things time and time again. Cut no corners. Get it right before you close it up.  

OK Jim, what did I miss on the wrist watch thing?

[Stormin 9,981]

Have no fear. I'll not be taking any chances. I'll be testing it before installation. (Install BFH smillie here)

[WHX?? 48,828]

10 hours ago, Racinbob said:

OK Jim, what did I miss on the wrist watch thing?

It was a joke Bob .... like the time a surgeon left his watch in a patient! 

[Racinbob 11,093]