Rust reformer testing video

[ebinmaine 67,455]

I found this video to be pretty interesting and figured I'd share it with you folks. Many of you are familiar with the Project Farm YouTube channel.

While he's certainly not in a clean room style scientific lab I think he does a pretty fair job trying to get an even comparison on the products that he tests.

 

I found it very interesting that out of 10 products he tested, Rust-Oleum 2X spray paint was in the middle of the pack other than pressure washing. Not even marketed as a rust converter.

His testing on the 2x shows that with a few days of drying it scratches fairly easily and the pressure washer pretty much removed it. Given the fact that we've found here that it takes 3 or 4 months to cure I can agree with those findings.

After proper curing time the scratch resistance is much much better but still doesn't compare to a properly sprayed automotive paint with a hardener in it.

 

We have used an inexpensive 3,000 psi pressure washer and if Rust-Oleum 2X is given appropriate time to harden up it does work substantially better and resists a pressure washer spray that is held back a couple feet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[peter lena 8,619]

@ebinmaine liked the info, been into rustproofing forever , simplest / easy thing I  do is to just give any metal an aerosol lubricant spray , to feed the metal and stop rust. when I rustproof a closed section , always use a lighter creeping  lubricant first , and watch it creep and expand into tight areas , then use a heavy gear oil  like #680 open gear spray on top , to seal off / lubricant and seal in place . best combo , ever used is lubriplate , chain and cable spray , and lubriplate  open gear oil . use this set up under my mower decks , let it dry in the hot sun , no rust no rot , cleans out easily , under car , watch it get into body seams that , were closed off . like doors and wheel well areas . just my own experience , pete

[EB-80/8inPA 1,641]

All:  Any thoughts on lanolin based products like Fluid Film or Wool Wax?  They are not converters, per se, but seem to work well.  They are messy though and seem to be best used only on inaccessible surfaces.

[peter lena 8,619]

@EB-80/8inPA  no experience with wool wax, but fluid film while better than nothing , is best in a confined space , does not hold up well when exposed to almost anything.  just my experience , pete

[ebinmaine 67,455]

1 hour ago, EB-80/8inPA said:

All:  Any thoughts on lanolin based products like Fluid Film or Wool Wax?  They are not converters, per se, but seem to work well.  They are messy though and seem to be best used only on inaccessible surfaces.

 

 

Fluid Film is a rust PREVENTATIVE.

Not a rust converter. 

 

My understanding of it is that if there is rust underneath Fluid Film it will continue to grow although much much more slowly.

[JoeM 7,873]

Not one that is in love with mower deck cleaning, I'm always looking for some better mouse trap. Typically I clean my decks mid season and then at the end of the season. Last year I coated the Kubota deck with the POR-15 process when I put it away. the pictures are at the 30+ hour point and I must say it was impressive. I know you can top coat over this stuff too! 

 

Before Pressure Washing

 

 

After a once go over with the pressure washer

 

 

Blade tip area, usually wears the most.

[Jeff-C175 7,201]

I've been a believer in POR15 for at least a decade.  I've tried them all, and as the reviewer stated the Rusto Rust reformer is my second choice.

 

POR15 is my ONLY choice for under deck.  As Joe's photos show it really holds up well to that environment.  The "kit" that they sell for about $25 has three components, a cleaner, a converter (probably phosphoric acid) and the top coat.  You even get disposable brushes! It's enough to treat a 48" deck.  There is nothing else that holds up as well as POR15!

 

I use the rust reformer for most other tasks but always top coat it.  IMO it's not enough all by itself.  The price is right!  It dries REALLY fast too!

 

I've also used lanolin.  It's good to use under cars and trucks.  You can spray everything with no worries.  TRUE that it doesn't last as long as a paint product but the fact that you can hit anything with it and not damage it makes it my go to for slowing the rust process on my vehicles.  There are YT videos of it also, I think Eric the car guy did a few.  Sheep fencing never rusts!

 

 

Edited August 23, 2021 by Jeff-C175

[EB-80/8inPA 1,641]

54 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said:

Sheep fencing never rusts!

 

 

I guess that just about says it all.

As an experiment I applied it under the deck.  It’s probably about time to drop it and see what kind of fatty grassy matrix of filth has built up under there.  I’m hoping that mess will drop off cleanly to show a nice slimey rust free surface.

I know they recommend yearly fall season reapplications for vehicles.  “They” being the fluid film applicators.

[RJ Hamner 1,007]

Some time back there was a thread on "Rust Bullet"

I went ahead a bought a can and used it on two of my 42" decks.

The one deck was pretty clean to begin with .  The second...not so much

This is the second season since I used it.

After the first season I hit them both with the power washer and they both looked real good

Will have to see what then look like this fall

I had a few "dribbles" on the concrete floor. Got a couple off with a hammer and chisel.  The rest are still stuck

 

[Jeff-C175 7,201]

11 hours ago, EB-80/8inPA said:

I applied it under the deck.

 

I've never tried it under deck because I thought it wouldn't stay on there very long.  I'm interested to hear what you find!

[Jeff-C175 7,201]

9 hours ago, RJ Hamner said:

Some time back there was a thread on "Rust Bullet"

 

I missed that thread, and first I've heard of Rust Bullet!  Thought I knew them all!  

 

Looks very similar to POR 15 from what I gather looking at their website.

 

Need to compare priceys.  Looks like it might be a little higher than POR at first glance.

 

[peter lena 8,619]

@JoeM  been doing this for years , found you have to ,  BREAK THE GRUNGE CYCLE , WITH LUBRICATION AND HEAT , do this at least once during the grass season . lightly sharpen blades , small fine file , typically don't have any built up grass, so a lubrication refresh is easy , prop up to hot sun , let lubrication set and stain into metal . under side of my decks is black lube stained . look over every area . for issues , re lube wheels , all my deck spindles , have lucas xtra h/d chassis grease , no whining noise or issues . came to this after regular failures , no more problems , just my ideas, pete