You all said it starts with one...then becomes a herd...

[OutdoorEnvy 1,522]

So this popped up on FB today for $25!!!  you know the rest... I couldn't get there soon enough and now it's at home in its new stable...Plan is to try and save it and bring back to user form...

 

C-100 8 speed

 

 

 

 

[c-series don 8,720]

For 25 bucks you stole it! The back tires and rims are worth more than that! Good luck with it, I hope you get it going again.Keep us posted. 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

@OutdoorEnvy

 

Dang son!  Yeah, I'd say you stole it!  That's less than scrap value!  

 

 

[WheelhorseBob 1,549]

Nice purchase. Good luck with it!

[AMC RULES 37,130]

You'll have to be very gentle with your cleaning process if you plan on keeping that patina.

[OutdoorEnvy 1,522]

1 hour ago, c-series don said:

For 25 bucks you stole it! The back tires and rims are worth more than that! Good luck with it, I hope you get it going again.Keep us posted. 

Yeah the rear tires were still holding air after years of sitting.  No cracks at all, just some weather checking.  They are goodyear 23x10.5x12.  They may be borrowed by my 312 while I sort out the engine   

 

14 minutes ago, AMC RULES said:

You'll have to be very gentle with your cleaning process if you plan on keeping that patina.

I plan to leave it for now with the patina look.  I will clean it up as best I can though of course so it's not dirty. 

 

Initial assessment is I think the trans is fine as it goes through all ranges and gears fine...the engine has no compression but I don't hear any odd sounds coming from it when I spin it by hand... Hoping it's a stuck valve...the clutch pedal is stuck pretty good.  Has no muffler so may be searching for one or fabricating a cheap one to fit.  This will be fun to dive into though.  I'll post progress as I make it...

 

[kpinnc 12,087]

Well done! 

 

When you get it running it will be quite the dependable worker!

[SylvanLakeWH 25,600]

Nice!!!

[Pollack Pete 2,273]

VERY nice.Nice price too.Doesn't look too bad.Heck,it looks better than some of the tractors I use.Have fun with your new toy.

[peter lena 8,634]

@OutdoorEnvy very nice steal on that ! referring to patina saving , my own experience , is a very simple aerosol lubricating spray down , just do that, nothing elaborate , just let it soak into the metal . after the wet look starts to dull , wipe it down with a clean cloth . following day do it again . if you wipe it down at all ,wipe down till dry , that's it , you have fed the metal and stopped the rust .  I do that on anything I  pick up , surprisingly that process , will support any car finish cleaner , just my own experience , pete 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

@peter lena I might try that on the 607, I did the Marvel Mystery Oil wipe down but not that spray down.

@OutdoorEnvy, that is a bargain! I bought a non-running repowered 607 and paid $150 for it. Looks like I need a transmission service. Good luck, looks very nice for how old it is.

[peter lena 8,634]

@OutdoorEnvy, transmission service is for a manual trans is rather simple , verify the condition of the existing "  fluid  " , usually milky and a watery rusty combination . jack up front end off ground to enhance drainage , get a new shift boot , this not a one and done service. I personally would use fuel oil or atf fluid , the cheapest , but fresh you can find . once refilled , you should drive it and use it , best on empty road , use every gear / range , especially reverse . regularly check dip  stick for color change / condition . remember you are flushing out neglect , done mine at least a couple of times , before the oil ,holds its look, then finish with a 75-95  gearoil . just my own experience . remember this is not a quick oil change , its an oil cleaning flush out , and fresh refill . trans should work smooth and easy , also LUBRICATE  RELATED CLUTCH LINKAGE , NO RUST , JUST GREASE AT ALL MOVEMENT POINTS .  this is my own experience , and works well , pete

[RichJ 29]

Pete, what brand or type of spray lubricant do you use to preserve the patina? Do you repeat the process every season? I want to keep the patina but prevent any surface rust from advancing on my new-to-me RJ.

[cschannuth 3,816]

2 hours ago, RichJ said:

Pete, what brand or type of spray lubricant do you use to preserve the patina? Do you repeat the process every season? I want to keep the patina but prevent any surface rust from advancing on my new-to-me RJ.

I obtained an older roller and stuck an engine in it. The sheet-metal was in excellent shape but the paint was faded and it had surface rust here and there. I took 0000 steel wool and Windex to the entire machine to clean it and then I used matte clear coat on everything. It doesn’t attract dust and it will last for years. Also, if you need a touch up just get the old spray can out and give it a couple of shots and it blends perfectly even years later. I like the look because it doesn’t give you a shiny/Rusty look. It looks exactly the same after I cleaned it as it did before so it has not affected the patina at all and that’s how I like it. First two pictures are right after I cleaned it up and put some new decals on it in the last two or how it works now, years later.

Edited August 15, 2021 by cschannuth

[RichJ 29]

Thanks for the reply. My next question was going to be about clear coat.

 

I was originally thinking of just washing with soap and water after decreasing. Then using rubbing compound to clean up the paint. Then clear coating with matte. I think I will do a test to compare rubbing compound with the fine steel wool and windex.

[peter lena 8,634]

@RichJ,  done a number of aerosol lubrication spray down's to save paint. never remove anything  of it , just spray it down and let it set , the existing paint gets dark with the lubrication feed . moisture will instantly bead up on it . its the second coat of spray lubricant , that I rub down till dry , you will probably start to see a paint sheen . if you do not want to  increase shine at that point , just regularly rub it down with aerosol lubricant , rub till dry . at that stage , I have used a 6" hand buffer , and car paint cleaner , on that dry oiled finish , and had the paint come right back , its the oil feed that really feeds that old paint. do that a couple of times with the buffer, and it looks like new paint !  did 2 of my horses like that , they looked like a garbage can , when i got them , that shinny paint now , looks very deep and solid . if you don't want to do the whole thing , just recover the rear fender area, and go from there , all 3 of mine have been buffed clean , and are easy to keep that way  , easy to try , pete 

[cschannuth 3,816]

25 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Thanks for the reply. My next question was going to be about clear coat.

 

I was originally thinking of just washing with soap and water after decreasing. Then using rubbing compound to clean up the paint. Then clear coating with matte. I think I will do a test to compare rubbing compound with the fine steel wool and windex.

it depends on what you’re looking for. All the stuff that I’ve purchased new or almost new still looks new 40 or 50 years later because I kept it inside and that’s all you really need to keep your paint looking fresh. My 30 year old pick up truck has never had anything more than hand washing and it still looks like the day it rolled off the assembly line. When I get an old  tractor from somebody else who did not keep it inside and it’s faded, I like to retain that patina look. The matte finish will keep that patina look without introducing an artificial shine. And, if kept inside the paint will never need anything else done to it if you protect it with the matte clearcoat.

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

7 hours ago, cschannuth said:

I obtained an older roller and stuck an engine in it. The sheet-metal was in excellent shape but the paint was faded and it had surface rust here and there. I took 0000 steel wool and Windex to the entire machine to clean it and then I used matte clear coat on everything. It doesn’t attract dust and it will last for years. Also, if you need a touch up just get the old spray can out and give it a couple of shots and it blends perfectly even years later. I like the look because it doesn’t give you a shiny/Rusty look. It looks exactly the same after I cleaned it as it did before so it has not affected the patina at all and that’s how I like it. First two pictures are right after I cleaned it up and put some new decals on it in the last two or how it works now, years later.

Do I see a Torino in that 1st pic ?

[cschannuth 3,816]

1 hour ago, Horse Newbie said:

Torino in that 1st pic ?

73 Gran Torino Sports Roof factory 4 speed and 74 wagon. Both with Cleveland’s. 

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

I had a 72 Gran Torino...had a blast in that car...wish it had been a Sport model...

Edited August 16, 2021 by Horse Newbie

[RichJ 29]

My Dad had the same color blue Torino when I was in high school in the early 70s. His had a black vinyl top. 30 minutes after getting my drivers license, me and a carload of buddies were in that car with the pedal to the metal on the nearest country road. Somehow we survived our stupidity...

[OutdoorEnvy 1,522]

I pulled the head and the piston is not moving. It was at the top and it had no rattle or anything.  I pushed it down some and it felt really smooth.  The cylinder walls look clean.  my guess is probably a broke connecting rod.  The camshaft seems good as both valves worked fine.  So this project will slow up a bit.  I'll probably start a new thread when I get around to it.  Head looked pretty clean though of carbon, etc.  Wasn't really any build up.  

 

 

[WHX?? 48,828]

Rebuild it Outdoor... I commented on your other thread.

 

On 8/14/2021 at 10:33 PM, OutdoorEnvy said:

Has no muffler

For a cheap replacement muffler just use a pepper pot.