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[WheelHorse520H 708]

Hi, I just bought a 607 that I am picking up tomorrow and was just looking for some info about them, gear ratios and stuff like that. I have decided to use this thread for any random questions I have to get this thing running and driving good. Also if anyone has a belt guard off of one of their tractors that uses the same one could you send along some photos of both sides? The one I bought doesn’t have a belt guard and I know it is needed to shift.

Andrew

Edited August 11, 2021 by WheelHorse520H

[stevasaurus 22,962]

The gear ratios of all Wheel Horse transmissions are the same.  For 6 & 8 speeds it is high range that is the same.  

1st gear.....66.8 to 1

2nd gear....42.4 to 1

3rd gear.....24.6 to 1

reverse......51.5 to 1

 

 

 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

1 minute ago, stevasaurus said:

The gear ratios of all Wheel Horse transmissions are the same.  For 6 & 8 speeds it is high range that is the same.  

1st gear.....66.8 to 1

2nd gear....42.4 to 1

3rd gear.....24.6 to 1

reverse......51.5 to 1

 

 

Thanks. Just interested in learning more about what I bought. I already have a space cleared for it.

Does anyone know what I can do to make the paint a little cleaner? No pictures right now, I will get some tomorrow once I pick it up.

[stevasaurus 22,962]

The manual above really spells it out, with a break down of parts.  I'll let the guys that like to paint answer your paint question.  I am a hack when it comes to paint...just do not have the patience, and I always have to touch it before it's dry.  

[ebinmaine 69,579]

34 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

The manual above really spells it out, with a break down of parts.  I'll let the guys that like to paint answer your paint question.  I am a hack when it comes to paint...just do not have the patience, and I always have to touch it before it's dry.  

You and me bud. You and me.

 

That's why I have The Paint Department...

 

 

 

@AMC RULES Craig has done some wondrous work with certain polishes and a lot of elbow grease.

 

 

The belt guard is probably going to be the same for any of the mid-60s short frame tractors.

Anything with a Tecumseh 6 or Kohler 8 engine from 1965, 6, 7. Maybe a little earlier and later but I don't know.

[stevasaurus 22,962]

Eric, I think he said he had a Predator engine on that 607.  If so, he needs to figure out what he wants to do.  If he stays with the replacement, finds a Tecumseh 6 hsp or puts a Kohler 8 in it.  I'm not sure if the original belt guard would fit any of those engines...except the Tecky 6.  We need to wait and see the pictures.  

 

EDIT...just looked at the manuals.  The 607 with a Tecky engine uses belt guard # 5308.  If a Kohler 8 was used, the guard is #4993.  Might just have to make one, or have one made.  Going to need pictures and measurements.

[WheelHorse520H 708]

2 hours ago, stevasaurus said:

The manual above really spells it out, with a break down of parts.  I'll let the guys that like to paint answer your paint question.  I am a hack when it comes to paint...just do not have the patience, and I always have to touch it before it's dry.  

Me too! Even though I know better.

26 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

Eric, I think he said he had a Predator engine on that 607.  If so, he needs to figure out what he wants to do.  If he stays with the replacement, finds a Tecumseh 6 hsp or puts a Kohler 8 in it.  I'm not sure if the original belt guard would fit any of those engines...except the Tecky 6.  We need to wait and see the pictures.  

It is a replacement, I learned when I looked at it yesterday it is not really a predator, it’s still a replacement just not predator brand. Not that it makes a huge difference.

 

28 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

EDIT...just looked at the manuals.  The 607 with a Tecky engine uses belt guard # 5308.  If a Kohler 8 was used, the guard is #4993.  Might just have to make one, or have one made.  Going to need pictures and measurements.

I will look up the part numbers and measure it tomorrow but I also think I’ll need to make one, that’s why I was asking for photos of it.

Thanks for the help guys,

Andrew

[ebinmaine 69,579]

5 minutes ago, WheelHorse520H said:

photos

All three of Trina's tractors are those mid 60s vintage.

Her military tribute tractor is in the basement workshop right now.

I can get you some pictures of that one in particular pretty easily sometime this evening.

 

 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

All three of Trina's tractors are those mid 60s vintage.

Her military tribute tractor is in the basement workshop right now.

I can get you some pictures of that one in particular pretty easily sometime this evening.

 

 

That would be excellent thank you so much. I saw photos of the tribute on another thread, that was really nice looking.

[wallfish 17,158]

The only thing different for a belt guard on a similar model tractor with a Kohler is the hole location for where it mounts to the engine. Not a big deal to make them fit. To make it run without a belt guard so the gears don't grind,  you can support the belt around the engine pulley with little metal "fingers" made from round bar. 

[ebinmaine 69,579]

3 minutes ago, WheelHorse520H said:

That would be excellent thank you so much. I saw photos of the tribute on another thread, that was really nice looking.

Thank you. She put a lot of hard work into that thing and got it done very very quickly.

 

Any particular measurements or orientation that you are looking for?

 

 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

Any particular measurements or orientation that you are looking for?

All sides you can, I know that are irregularly shaped. Do you know if the inside near the belt is flat or is there anything separating the belt or something?

[ebinmaine 69,579]

The belt rides along most of the bottom of the guard.

On the inside of the guard of course. 

Edited August 9, 2021 by ebinmaine

[stevasaurus 22,962]

I have a photo of my guard for my 857.

 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

3 minutes ago, wallfish said:

The only thing different for a belt guard on a similar model tractor with a Kohler is the hole location for where it mounts to the engine. Not a big deal to make them fit. To make it run without a belt guard so the gears don't grind,  you can support the belt around the engine pulley with little metal "fingers" made from round bar. 

Thank you, that might be easy, just can’t have long shoe laces… maybe I’ll buy some velcro sneakers!

[WheelHorse520H 708]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

The belt rides along most of the bottom of the guard.

 

1 minute ago, stevasaurus said:

I have a photo of my guard for my 857.

 

Thank you, this is good info. The shape is important too, thanks again.

[stevasaurus 22,962]

Are you looking to keep this engine??  Using John's picture and what I and Eric have pictures of, you can easily make something safe that works.  Of course, it would be excellent to have something close to cut to fit...  @WHX?? has a bunch of guards...maybe he or @Achto can help you out.  The guard needs to be made, so it funnels the slack in the belt (when you push in the clutch) toward the engine pulley.  That lets the input pulley, on your trans, stop so you can shift without grinding gears.  Like John said, you can also use like #109 wire to bend and mount these to funnel the slack also.  The guard also protects your right leg...very important.  

[WheelHorse520H 708]

5 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

Are you looking to keep this engine??

Yes, at least for now.

 

6 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

The guard also protects your right leg...very important.  

That’s really why I wanted the guard. I don’t know how much anyone else values their limbs but I sure do like mine.

[stevasaurus 22,962]

Good to hear.  Last thing we want to do, is give out information that gets you hurt.  I the pictures I posted, the wide end is toward the transmission, the wide part is over the tension pulley, the narrow end is just near the engine pulley.  That bolt with the sleeve on it does a lot to funnel the slack forward.  The guard covers the belt.

[Achto 28,134]

If you are keeping the Tecumseh engine then most any guard from a short frame with a Techy  should work. If you wish to try to make one yourself, the only square corner on the whole thing is the upper rear corner. Take all of you measurements from that corner and they are not too hard to lay out. 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

1 minute ago, Achto said:

 

If you are keeping the Tecumseh engine then most any guard from a short frame with a Techy  should work.

 

It was already replaced before I bought it.

 

2 minutes ago, Achto said:

If you wish to try to make one yourself, the only square corner on the whole thing is the upper rear corner. Take all of you measurements from that corner and they are not too hard to lay out. 

Thanks for the tip.

 

4 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

Good to hear.  Last thing we want to do, is give out information that gets you hurt.  I the pictures I posted, the wide end is toward the transmission, the wide part is over the tension pulley, the narrow end is just near the engine pulley.  That bolt with the sleeve on it does a lot to funnel the slack forward.  The guard covers the belt.

Okay, thanks.

[stevasaurus 22,962]

Dan, he's got a replacement engine on at the moment.

[rjg854 11,690]

3 hours ago, WheelHorse520H said:

 

Does anyone know what I can do to make the paint a little cleaner? No pictures right now, I will get some tomorrow once I pick it up.

You'd be surprised what a rundown of Marvel Mystery Oil will do  

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[WheelHorse520H 708]

Thanks, it’s a little faded but I think it will do good.