giddyap 1,569 #1 Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) This project was born with a different goal adding 10" to the midsection of a 310-8/520H. It is now being built as a new version of what I believe is my original concept. To my knowledge no other custom has been built using a Wheel Horse snowplow frame as a chassie. If it has I want to know so credit is due where it belongs. The second photo is of my original finished chassie, then the start of the rejected project, the transformation and one of this first photos of what to expect if I stay on course. This is basically in the mock up stage. Many issues remain to determine if it "sinks or floats". Any imput is greatly appriecated. Edited August 5, 2021 by giddyap addition 3 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,596 #2 Posted August 5, 2021 Looks wicked interesting. What's the seat pan?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #3 Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Looks wicked interesting. What's the seat pan?? It's a wheelbarrow tub. I was going to mount it on the extended 310-8/520H frame but my eyes hurt looking at it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,596 #4 Posted August 5, 2021 Nicely done. I like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,906 #5 Posted August 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, giddyap said: To my knowledge no other custom has been built using a Wheel Horse snowplow frame as a chassie @wallfish built his custom motorcycle out of a plow frame and all parts, we can’t forget that one 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #6 Posted August 5, 2021 Here's John and me and our machines. I had no idea his motocycle used the snowplow frame. So I am very happy it is wallfish who deserves the credit. 7 minutes ago, pullstart said: @wallfish built his custom motorcycle out of a plow frame and all parts, we can’t forget that one 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #7 Posted August 5, 2021 I really admire wallfish for his expertise and his imagination. Along with others in this community he may have helped me the most with my first build. In addition to his original WH motocycle I believe he also originated a two seater using a snowplow blade which I included a picture. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #8 Posted August 6, 2021 Here are two more progress photos. I think most of the difficulties are behind me and I'm feeling good about the chances of completing this project. This post also reveals my goal of creating something unique or original. Jack Parr of talk TV and the original host of the Tonight Show said, "there is nothing left to talk about". That is proving to be the case with me and why I get excited when an idea comes to me only to find it's been done 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,596 #9 Posted August 6, 2021 Nothing wrong with putting your/our own tastes/touches on an existing idea though. I really enjoy seeing the differences of the way folks' mind's eye looks upon a potential piece. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,906 #10 Posted August 7, 2021 It’s looking great already! As mentioned before, it’s quite amazing what you can accomplish by means of fitting and bolting together without welding. I’m looking forward to the progress! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #11 Posted August 7, 2021 A Cub steering column was delivered yesterday and was fitted today. The mini wing may gett replaced with a grille , Our new mailbox had to be large enough for my scrap metal motocycle to sit on it 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #12 Posted August 13, 2021 Last year I was lucky to get a Harbor Freight 10K generator AND beat a price increase. Today I thought about going to HF for an engine but first I had to check if it was in was in stock. Yikes all the stores in my area appeared to have none. But as I was comparing stores, some engines had a "add to cart" option. So I did and got the one I wanted (except it was Calif emissions), It's being shipped to m house in 5-7 days Appears to be deja vu all over again 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #13 Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 10:37 PM, giddyap said: Last year I was lucky to get a Harbor Freight 10K generator AND beat a price increase. Today I thought about going to HF for an engine but first I had to check if it was in was in stock. Yikes all the stores in my area appeared to have none. But as I was comparing stores, some engines had a "add to cart" option. So I did and got the one I wanted (except it was Calif emissions), It's being shipped to m house in 5-7 days Appears to be deja vu all over again Wouldn't want a Tillotson Mark II with stock internals, or Billet Tillotson... would you? Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #14 Posted August 26, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 6:59 PM, Snoopy11 said: want a Tillotson Mark II with...... Thanks, but I would ratther wait on a 301 Predator and I am in no hurry BACKORDER, My engine should arrive sometime in Sept. In the mean time I bought a pair of 20x8 and put them on a modified cart. I used the frame from a wheel barrow and the axle clamps from a WH deck It still needs a few refidements 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #15 Posted August 30, 2021 Without an engine, there is little left to engineer. Today I cut out the seat pan, and decided to reconfigure the tower. Like the engine, I'm also waiting on a 12x12 mounting plate cut out for a 301 Predator. This is my first 301, I hope it fits more like the 212 and not like the 420. Long overdue is a current photo which I took just a short time ago. Since I havent posted every little thing during my build as I usually do, I thought this one photo would be proof that I'm actually building something lol. One other comment, what you see will likey look slightly different when I'm done. BTW I renewed my supporter status for another year 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slim67 2,735 #16 Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, giddyap said: Without an engine, there is little left to engineer. Today I cut out the seat pan, and decided to reconfigure the tower. Like the engine, I'm also waiting on a 12x12 mounting plate cut out for a 301 Predator. This is my first 301, I hope it fits more like the 212 and not like the 420. Long overdue is a current photo which I took just a short time ago. Since I havent posted every little thing during my build as I usually do, I thought this one photo would be proof that I'm actually building something lol. One other comment, what you see will likey look slightly different when I'm done. BTW I renewed my supporter status for another year Jon the 301 used to be 346 cc and 11 hp but for whatever reason it is what it is now. It’s heftier than the 212. Think GX200 vs GX340. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,307 #17 Posted August 31, 2021 13 hours ago, giddyap said: I renewed my supporter status for another year 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,214 #18 Posted September 9, 2021 That is so wild!!!! Being styled like a front engine dragster, sure would look cool with a big ol honkin flathead Kohler up there eh? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #19 Posted September 10, 2021 I went to HF this morning and was told the California warehouse is deplete of engines. So with two engines in stock I took one not knowing if it was a Hemi and canceled my online order. The Carolina warehouse must be running low 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #20 Posted September 10, 2021 Everything aside, my priority is to get that engine unboxed. I think there are 4 factories in China producing the engine and only one making the Hemi. So compare the picture on the box, compare heads with my 212 power washer and I think I just maybe got the Hemi 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,906 #21 Posted September 10, 2021 Now we can get to work again! By “we” I mean “you” but at least we are here to watch you! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #22 Posted September 11, 2021 6 hours ago, pullstart said: Now we can get to work again! Heigh-ho, heigh-ho it's off to work we go.....well not so much today. What with building without an engine on hand I finally got to size up how it all fits together and plan my next moves On 8/30/2021 at 7:24 PM, slim67 said: It’s heftier than the 212. I was still surprised by how much heftier it is and relieved it mounts only slightly off center. It's a big block more like the 420 13 hp that needed a rockshaft because the offset was too extreme. I don't build engines but I have to think this one has much potential 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #23 Posted September 12, 2021 With the engine sitting on the plate, I was finally able to see how I needed to get the drive belt thru the tower. Which by the way, the belt fits nicely between the original frame and the plow frame. Same for the clutch linkage on the other side which I will show later. My pulleys are E4" and 2"Tranny 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #24 Posted September 12, 2021 If you go back to post #8, second picture you will see that I turned the plow bracket upside down and 2 short round bars so the clamps could hook up. I realized all the weight would be on the axle cases so I built up the brackets with spacers and slid in one whole round bar that you can see in post #23. Now with a tight spacer under the one round bar I have the weight distributed to three points instead of two With the clutch linkage running between the frames the cast foot lever was not going to work. So I found a stamped foot lever from a new Toro was the solution. Removing the right foot brake i discovered the short link was the exact part to revert back to a clutch/brake left foot. I also can adjust the clutch with the turnbuckle 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,214 #25 Posted September 13, 2021 Love it! And yes sir, thats a hemi head model, and they absolutely do make more power. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites