WheelHorse520H 708 #1 Posted July 25, 2021 Hi guys, looking at buying a 607 with an engine that was replaced, not the original one and wondering if $250 was a good deal? I would think that with a different engine it would have a lower value. The ad says it doesn’t run. All help is appreciated, Andrew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #2 Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) I just texted the seller now he says it is a 1967 not sure if this changes anything. Has a 6hp predator engine. Edited July 26, 2021 by WheelHorse520H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Dingus Magee 24 #3 Posted July 25, 2021 pictures? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #4 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, pullstart said: CL ads (especially not your own) aren’t allowed on here FYI... Oh ok, I will avoid that in the future. Can I screenshot the pictures of the ad though or is that not allowed too because it is not my ad? 48 minutes ago, pullstart said: but I would steer clear of any tractor ran without a belt guard... May I inquire as to why? Edited July 26, 2021 by WheelHorse520H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,741 #5 Posted July 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, WheelHorse520H said: Oh ok, I will avoid that in the future. Can I screenshot the pictures of the ad though or is that not allowed too because it is not my ad? May I inquire as to why? If he actually tried to use it he would have ground the gears ... a lot. Not good for tranny. Belt guard makes the belt stop when you step on the clutch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #6 Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, pfrederi said: If he actually tried to use it he would have ground the gears ... a lot. Not good for tranny. Belt guard makes the belt stop when you step on the clutch. Yikes okay, is there any way to know if it was damaged besides taking it apart of course? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,741 #7 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, WheelHorse520H said: Yikes okay, is there any way to know if it was damaged besides taking it apart of course? Drain/ suck some oil out of the tranny see how many metal flakes are in it... Edited July 26, 2021 by pfrederi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #8 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Drain some oil out of eh tranny see how many metal flakes are in it... Sensible, if I do go look at it I will be sure to (of course if the seller is okay with it) check the oil. Thanks. If the tranny does have issues what would you say it’s worth(judging by the pictures)? Edited July 26, 2021 by WheelHorse520H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,911 #9 Posted July 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, WheelHorse520H said: Sensible, if I do go look at it I will be sure to (of course if the seller is okay with it) check the oil. Thanks. If the tranny does have issues what would you say it’s worth(judging by the pictures)? A non-running or poor running Predator has little value to me. I recently picked up a roller for $45 at auction... If you could add a belt guard, then test it running in each gear, with a load or at high throttle, so long as it doesn’t pop out of gear it should be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #10 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, pullstart said: A non-running or poor running Predator has little value to me. I recently picked up a roller for $45 at auction... so you think $250 is too much? 5 minutes ago, pullstart said: If you could add a belt guard, then test it running in each gear, with a load or at high throttle, so long as it doesn’t pop out of gear it should be ok. Also makes sense, but can’t do that with a non-running predator. (Starting to see a loss in value here). So without a belt guard, a potentially damaged tranny and a non-running predator how much would you pay for it? Edited July 26, 2021 by WheelHorse520H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelsey 91 #11 Posted July 26, 2021 I wouldn't give him anymore than 50 bucks for that 607. It's got too many question marks for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyredhorse 295 #12 Posted July 26, 2021 it would be good for parts tractor.you could part it out for more than 250 i think.but without motor I'd wait for something with one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #13 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Crazyredhorse said: but without motor I'd wait for something with one. It has a predator 6 hp in it, but it has been sitting so it doesn’t run. At least that’s what the seller said. So I was wondering if it would be useful to me, I have a 1988 520-H that was purchased with a 48” rd mowing deck and a snow plow / dozer blade (not sure what size). So my question is would either of these for the 1967 607? Thanks for all the help. P.S. If anyone has the part numbers for the Transmission and the belt cover that would be a huge help, I am trying to see how much those cost to see if it is worth buying to fix up. Edited July 26, 2021 by WheelHorse520H Had to fix typo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Dingus Magee 24 #14 Posted July 26, 2021 not an expert , but i don't think anything from a 520H will work on that 607 with it not running it's hard to evaluate it's condition...me personally if it was close to me i'd be in the $100- $150 range. and then put my own motor on it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #15 Posted July 26, 2021 BTW, a 607 is a 1967 tractor. That horse should have the #5053 transmission, pretty much bullet proof and easy to find replacement. I hid your CL add. It is OK to just add the picture, we do not want the link or any information pointing to it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #16 Posted July 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: BTW, a 607 is a 1967 tractor. That horse should have the #5053 transmission, pretty much bullet proof and easy to find replacement. I hid your CL add. It is OK to just add the picture, we do not want the link or any information pointing to it. Thanks for the part number and I appreciate the help with the CL ad, as soon as @pullstart mentioned it I realized that it made perfect sense to not allow it, I just didn’t think about that side of it. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #17 Posted July 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: BTW, a 607 is a 1967 tractor. That horse should have the #5053 transmission, pretty much bullet proof and easy to find replacement. So would you be concerned with what @pfrederi mentioned about the ground gears? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #18 Posted July 26, 2021 Absolutely, grinding those gears is very possible. The way that horse is right now, you would have to start it in the gear you want to run it. It is almost impossible to shift any Wheel Horse without it's belt guard. The belt guard funnels slack in the belt toward the engine pulley...thus the input pulley on the trans comes to a stop allowing you to shift gears without grinding. The belt guard is your clutch. The seller may still have the guard, it probably did not fit when the engine was changed out. The 607 would have come with a 6 hsp Tecumseh...probably a pull start engine. The "7" in 607 means 1967. If I bought that horse, I would be looking to put an 8 hsp Kohler K-181 on it. It would then become an 857...the "5" would be electric start. That horse is what is known as a "short, frame, square hood". They are excellent horses with a short turning radius. That one looks to be solid, if you could get it for under $150, it would be worth fixing it up. Want ads placed in our "Classified / Wanted Section" should find you anything you need and close to you. On the transmission. Any of the 3 speed transmissions will bolt right into the 607, or if you open it up...it is fixable for not much money. Inside gears are available also. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #19 Posted July 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: If I bought that horse, I would be looking to put an 8 hsp Kohler K-181 on it. It would then become an 857...the "5" would be electric start. Thanks for the info, I thought that 100-175 was a fair price because of its condition. The electric start, that’s the one with the starter generator “Genny” right? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyredhorse 295 #20 Posted July 26, 2021 I'd bet that rear end has problems if they went to the trouble to put that motor on it tranny went and they gave up.should be able to get a running one for around 300. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #21 Posted July 26, 2021 Here is my 857. DSCF8744.MP4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,828 #22 Posted July 26, 2021 Thing that jumps out at me is the pot metal motor pully. No no... those should not be used anywhere on any tractor. $100 tractor all day long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #23 Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, WHX24 said: Thing that jumps out at me is the pot metal motor pully. No no... those should not be used anywhere on any tractor. $100 tractor all day long. Dare I ask, why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,741 #24 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WheelHorse520H said: Dare I ask, why? They are deigned for fractional (less than 1 hp) Horsepower ratings. Edited July 26, 2021 by pfrederi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #25 Posted July 26, 2021 Oh! Does anyone know what is the correct one and what does it cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
