Collectible firearms folks? Values needed....

[ebinmaine 67,508]

Trina and I have been given the opportunity to be the owners/caretakers/stewards of a few hobby type handmade firearms.

 

We do know that they are not super valuable but we'd like to give a fair amount for them.

 

Age is unknown but I believe maybe 15 to 25 years. All of them were bought as kits from the Kittery Trading Post here in Maine.

 

The firing ability of the three guns is unknown but I would have to assume that they work knowing the owner.

 

The Cannon below does fire.

 

We would appreciate whatever thoughts, questions, values, you can give us.

 

 

[OldWorkHorse 3,045]

Buy the cannon! Tow behind military tractor haha

[WHX?? 48,815]

The cannon is by far the most interesting piece by far. Guessing in the 2 - 250 range if you were to buy that kit today. Some of those cannon kits can reach upwards of 2K tho. So be careful and research it abit more.

The smoke pole & sticks are DIY replikits and maybe worth just a little less than what it would take to replace them at todays prices. 

Certainly nice wall deco tho. 

Edited July 19, 2021 by WHX24

[ebinmaine 67,508]

3 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

Certainly nice wall deco

That's about what we were thinking.

I'd have no problem firing them off once in awhile if someone was to show us how to do it correctly.

 

 

[Stormin 9,981]

Can't help you with prices, but that cannon is a beauty.

BTW. Over here you'd have to have a firearms licence for those guns and they'd have to be locked away. Wall decoration would be out unless de-activated.

[ebinmaine 67,508]

2 minutes ago, Stormin said:

Can't help you with prices, but that cannon is a beauty.

BTW. Over here you'd have to have a firearms licence for those guns and they'd have to be locked away. Wall decoration would be out unless de-activated.

That's one of the good things about living in Maine. It's pretty free state when it comes to that kind of stuff.

[roadapples 6,983]

As far as firing once in a while, when you're done they need to be completely disassembled, washed with hot soapy water, dried, and reoiled. Black powder is very corrosive....

[Ed Kennell 38,178]

[WHX?? 48,815]

 I neglected to to clean a front stuffer once and after only three days I had some nasties going on. I have no clue how they kept them in decent shape in the old days and the black powder we have nowadays is much better. Cleaner guns through better chemistry I guess. 

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

to show us how to do it correctly.

Gotta be more than a few you tubes out ther or better yet network with a local rod & gun club. 

 

 Check down the barrel might be signs of having been fired once or twice EB. 

 

Make sure you keep them oiled and wipe them down after every fondling. 

 

Any Idea what calibers? Guessing the long gun is .50??? 

4 hours ago, Stormin said:

they'd have to be locked away.

Second amendment here Norm. Please do keep reminding us on how good we have it. Not a bad idea anyway to keep the youngun's mitts off them.

Since I am an empty nester my not so valuable pieces go on the wall for eye candy. I should make glass front cases for them to keep the dust off tho. 

Edited July 19, 2021 by WHX24

[ebinmaine 67,508]

47 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

calibers

Honestly not sure. 

I don't think they're quite that big though. 

[WHX?? 48,815]

Gotta  be stamped on the barrels..50 cal. is real close to a half inch. Or bust out your calipers and measure. Dueling pistols probaly around 30 cal.... ther ya go EB we got a new handle fer ya and the better half.....

The Pistoleros ... or hey..... The Cannon Ballers......

Edited July 19, 2021 by WHX24

[ebinmaine 67,508]

17 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

. The Cannon Ballers

That could work..

[Ed Kennell 38,178]

I'll throw one more caution out there.     Before loading any muzzle loader,  MAKE SURE  it isn't allready loaded.       Way too many front stuffers get put away loaded.

 

I always file two marks on my ram rods to measore the barrel length.     One for loaded and one for unloaded.

[Achto 27,577]

5 hours ago, Stormin said:

BTW. Over here you'd have to have a firearms licence for those guns and they'd have to be locked away. Wall decoration would be out unless de-activated.

 

In the US a muzzle loading black powder gun is not technically considered a fire arm by the federal government. While it is illegal for a felon to own a fire arm in the US, a muzzle loading black powder gun can be owned by a felon in most states. 

[Ed Kennell 38,178]

11 hours ago, Achto said:

muzzle loading black powder gun can be owned by a felon in most states. 

Most of the felons that I know own high capacity automatics.    

[giddyap 1,569]

On 7/20/2021 at 8:05 AM, Ed Kennell said:

Most of the felons that I know own high capacity automatics.

Eye candy and a couple hundred bucks of ammo gone in seconds

Edited August 4, 2021 by giddyap
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[ebinmaine 67,508]

Friends I've got another one for you...

 

Same situation. Same  person as the original post question, has this one.

Age of this long gun and bayonet is unknown.  Likely between 70 and 90 years.

Capability of firing is unknown. Hasn't happened in several decades.

 

Current owner claims there are no markings on the piece anywhere.  I have not tried to zoom in using a bigger screen to see if I can find anything.

 

 

As in my initial posting about the other pieces I'm looking for some sort of a rough value and or what questions to ask to get that figured out. 

 

 

[WHX?? 48,815]

Looks to be a mid to late 1800s fire stick. If it is its in good shape. Impossible to tell from those pics. Ther will be markings on it some where just gotta know wher to look. Is it possible to afix the bayonet?

Your going to need to take it to pawn stars for appraisal.... he knows a guy... 

[ebinmaine 67,508]

23 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Is it possible to afix the bayonet?

Not sure.

Likely at least a month or two before I'll see it. Just trying to get a rough idea....

[WHX?? 48,815]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

 Just trying to get a rough idea....

You won't without someone in the know fondling it. Or alot of really good pics. 

[Ed Kennell 38,178]

No idea on value Eric,  but the sling swivels indicate a repro to me.

[ebinmaine 67,508]

11 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

No idea on value Eric,  but the sling swivels indicate a repro to me.

You're the 3rd to indicate that. 

 

 

I s'pose we'll just haveta get it here and paw it over.  

 

[EB-80/8inPA 1,641]

On 7/19/2021 at 2:19 PM, ebinmaine said:

 

We would appreciate whatever thoughts, questions, values, you can give us.

 

 

 

 

In Philadelphia it’s worth fifty bucks.

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by EB-80/8inPA

[Darb1964 1,042]

The bayonet maybe the most valuable piece. The only thing double edge is not legal in many states.

[EB-80/8inPA 1,641]

All kidding aside, there’s an “18th Century Artisans show” near here in Lewisburg every February where all sorts of producers and collectors of such things gather to show and sell.  Perhaps there’s a similar affair near you?  Otherwise, there is a list of the vendors out there, one of whom may be able to help.  Sorry, but other than Bo Diddley, that’s all I’ve got.  Good luck!