Poppa Phill 61 #1 Posted June 29, 2021 Good afternoon to all ya red Horse wheelie driving Folks. Came across a 06 522xi with a busted axle, Has a cab front end loader and mower deck, no rust no leaks except where the axle is busted. He asked $650 for it , I didnt argue, straight to the bank paid for it an went for my trailer before he changed his mind. previous owner before him had ruined the rear hubs lotsa holes in em, axle keyways carved up. Toro website says they not available so Im thinking I gotta buy a rear end or does anyone here have a much better idea. short of me taking a grenade to it ? Any advice is much appreciated . sell me some parts take my money I be happy with that too if they fit!! Stay in the shade!!! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #2 Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Hiya Poppa! Welcome to Red Square! Check out the VENDOR listing here on the site, and particularly A-Z tractors. He may have everything you need. Don't send a message on the forum though, best to call him on the phone. Email works too but phone is better. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/forum/92-vendors/ https://a-ztractor.com/ Edited June 29, 2021 by Jeff-C175 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #3 Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Poppa Phill said: Stay in the shade!!! One Oh One point Five here today... IN THE SHADE! Edited June 29, 2021 by Jeff-C175 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #4 Posted June 29, 2021 Got any pictures of this tractor? We do like them here. Thinkin the FEL might worth the price. Another thing you can do put an ad here Wanted - Classifieds - RedSquare Wheel Horse Forum You are probably gonna need new hubs too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,575 #5 Posted June 29, 2021 I know nothing about the XI models, but some one will be along who does know. Some pictures would be great though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #6 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) The axles are no longer available.....but 1 1/8 axles from a C series gear drive are the same length. I can measure one tomorrow for the correct length. Only difference is the C series axle uses a woodruff key. It is a pretty good job changing the axles I have a youtube vid on the ones I did. Now if the key way is somewhat useful, A-Z sells a taper lock hub that just might do the trick and tighten up on the current axle you have. They were $110 at the show. Also if you are not too picky, I have welded the hub on the end of the axle with fair results. (last resort) The axle is not hardened out the end only in the bearing area so it is weldable. Edited June 30, 2021 by JoeM 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #7 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) I would try some Loctite 660 before resorting to welds. https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/product/retaining-compounds/loctite_660.html Edited June 30, 2021 by Jeff-C175 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #8 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) This is the vid of the case separation. Once the transmission is removed from the main frame then hydro pump can stay in place and the case is supported vertically. I used a hollow core block to support this one but some have more elaborate set ups. Before spitting the case the old shafts have to be smooth and burr free. Edited June 30, 2021 by JoeM 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #9 Posted June 30, 2021 Now Joe you know I love you and respect your mechanical skills but I may have to whip you with a wet noodle on welding that hub on! 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,004 #10 Posted June 30, 2021 to the forum. Lots of good folks here with lots of Wheel Horse knowledge. If worse comes to worse, you could probably get a new set of axles made out of Thompson rod. If I remember the pictures I've seen of the axles, they are straight with a couple of key ways and maybe a C clip groove. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,879 #12 Posted June 30, 2021 Is the axle physically snapped? You might want to check this part of your frame out as well. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #13 Posted June 30, 2021 9 hours ago, WHX24 said: welding that hub on I know...... I could hear the RS gasp as I posted the pics! I did later change the axle, ran the tractor for a while to make sure everything else was okay before I dove into the axle repair. here is a pic of how to remove a welded hub from an axle. Video of the axle being removed form the pinion set. WHX24 You see anything in the background of the video toward the end? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poppa Phill 61 #14 Posted June 30, 2021 11 hours ago, JoeM said: The axles are no longer available.....but 1 1/8 axles from a C series gear drive are the same length. I can measure one tomorrow for the correct length. Only difference is the C series axle uses a woodruff key. It is a pretty good job changing the axles I have a youtube vid on the ones I did. Now if the key way is somewhat useful, A-Z sells a taper lock hub that just might do the trick and tighten up on the current axle you have. They were $110 at the show. Also if you are not too picky, I have welded the hub on the end of the axle with fair results. (last resort) The axle is not hardened out the end only in the bearing area so it is weldable. Thanks for these picks, The rear end of this tractor is in really crappy shape, I have heat sickness so not allowed outside beyond 80f, HOWEVER! when it cools down Im gunna pull the unit, and going to xfer some picks to the laptop so I can post em up. I should get that done after breakfast if I get breakfast. I might be stuck here replying to all this great info and the welcome!! Great stuff!! Stay Cool! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #15 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said: I would try some Loctite 660 before resorting to welds. https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/product/retaining-compounds/loctite_660.html Check out the Loctite 660. I used it on one of my axle shafts / keyway which was pretty buggered up about 5 years ago along with a NEW hub. It has been fine since. Follow the directions meticulously! Think about it this way... What have you got to lose? If it works and you don't have to replace axles, then you've WON! If it doesn't work, you're only out a few bucks for the 660 and a little bit of time. Edited June 30, 2021 by Jeff-C175 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poppa Phill 61 #16 Posted June 30, 2021 both hubs previously butchered, 1 3/4 inch of the left shaft snapped off. Right hand side lock bolt stripped key bent and stuck under the hub, I got hydraulic puller it will come off one way or the other, V-cut ther mating ends welded it up inline and true, ground it drilled it, lasted about 100 feet it had already been drilled through making it weak, tapped the lock hole to 7/16 coarse, cleaned it all up. was good for about 100 ft, hubs too wallowed out for even a reasonable fit. people that semi abuse expensive garden equip got more money than sensethe deck Pic, zero rust on it, new belts came with it towers good hasnt been used in a couple years I guess.. Forgot ... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,045 #17 Posted June 30, 2021 Tried to determine what axles were used where some time ago 11-5/8" x 1-1/8" diameter 79-3340 left and right axles (1998-2005) (5xi) - Still available March 13, 2020 - $282.98 11-5/8" x 1-1/8" diameter 102764 left and right axles (1973-1976) replaced by 99-5359 kit - Also used in gear transmissions 1973-1976 11-5/8" x 1-1/8" diameter 99-5359 kit left and right axles - Still available March 13, 2020 - $246.71 - Also used in gear transmissions 1973-1976 Kits usually include multiple pieces - Wonder what is included with the 99-5359? Garry 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #18 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Gzzzzz, with an FEL......axle replacement is certain! Or a doner transmission......not to easy to find. Or pick up and other 522xi and put the FEL on it. But for what you got in it, the repair is much worth it. Material needed, two hubs with sets and keys, axle seals, two axles, case gasket, 5 quarts of 10w30, and a new trans filter. Just need to double check the outer axle bearings for excessive radial play. The current axles should just move a touch in the bearing. Removing the seals will help when checking the play. I will get back later today with that axle info. Lots of used ones out there. Looks like Garry got you covered with the axle availability. Edited June 30, 2021 by JoeM 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,879 #19 Posted June 30, 2021 You still got a heck of a deal, all things considered! If you decide this is too big a job and you don’t want this pile of crap () just let me know and I’ll happily reimburse you! 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimt1971 237 #20 Posted June 30, 2021 I would go with two of those taper lock hub from a to z and call it a day. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poppa Phill 61 #21 Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, jimt1971 said: I would go with two of those taper lock hub from a to z and call it a day. Ordered 2 of those yesterday while I was creating this account. already shipped. If I can get A couple c-160 axles I be a happy camper. bearings and seals are top of the list, no way Im doing all this work and NOT replace em.. Gotta :love all the responses with Solid info. Great Vids N Pics too!!! enough to drive a Mans tTactor to Drinkin Hightest!! I gotta go pretend to work. Retirement = find something else to do or be broke!!! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #22 Posted July 1, 2021 I think Phill is looking for some 102764 axles. 1 1/8" x 11 5/8". Some early C units used them as Garry pointed out in the last post. Looks like that changed in 1977 to a different version on the C160 to the 105875 13 1/8" long. Just wondering if the wider 1 1/2" stance would be an issue???? If using a 48" mower deck might hit the gauge wheels. In the last post was my vid of a axle swap and I used the 102764. Worked fine other than it used a #22 woodruff key and not a square key. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,054 #23 Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, JoeM said: Just wondering if the wider 1 1/2" stance would be an issue???? If using a 48" mower deck might hit the gauge wheels. In the last post was my vid of a axle swap and I used the 102764. I'm running 1.5 inch spacers and 520-H rear wheels and the overall width is still only 44 inches. My 48SD deck still has room for the guage wheels. I know the 522xi decks are different, but I wouldn't think slightly longer axles would be an issue. Certainly not 1.5 on each side. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #24 Posted July 2, 2021 Did a little measuring today. 522xi outside to outside of rear tires was 39 1/2” 48”deck gauge wheels spacing was 41 1/2” I did have a 60” deck on the 522xi and the left side would be tight using extended axles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poppa Phill 61 #25 Posted July 2, 2021 20 hours ago, JoeM said: I think Phill is looking for some 102764 axles. 1 1/8" x 11 5/8". Some early C units used them as Garry pointed out in the last post. Looks like that changed in 1977 to a different version on the C160 to the 105875 13 1/8" long. Just wondering if the wider 1 1/2" stance would be an issue???? If using a 48" mower deck might hit the gauge wheels. In the last post was my vid of a axle swap and I used the 102764. Worked fine other than it used a #22 woodruff key and not a square key. You are correct.. Found the repair HUBS from A to Z tractors ebay site. they will be here monday, also found the axles there as well. I love this Place!!!! Poppa Phill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
