71_Bronco 1,072 #1 Posted June 23, 2021 Picking up this little gem this weekend for my garage. Saw the post on FBM about 45 minutes after it was posted. Luckily, I was the first one to contact the seller, and struck up a deal. I'll get some more pics after I get it. My plan is to figure out a way to slow it down to use with metal. Currently, it is the single-speed version without the speed-reducing gearbox. I'm going to go through it, probably order new urethane tires, and may do a bearing kit depending on how everything looks. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 1,941 #2 Posted June 23, 2021 Thats a great saw. I have the same one only without the enclosed base. As for slowing it down, a jackshaft with a two pulleys will probably get you the speed reduction you need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,988 #3 Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Good find. With the exception of the base I have the same saw. It is the second generation of that saw. Careful with that light. It’s worth more than the saw. I have a simple modification made by previous owner to slow it down .Just a double pulley with an adjustable tensioner. Edited June 23, 2021 by formariz 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #5 Posted June 23, 2021 Thanks for the replies. The enclosed bottom seems a little uncommon. Most I see are the open frames, or the highly coveted cast iron based. I'll also keep you guys hanging as to what I paid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,988 #6 Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, 71_Bronco said: Thanks for the replies. The enclosed bottom seems a little uncommon. Most I see are the open frames, or the highly coveted cast iron based. I'll also keep you guys hanging as to what I paid I don’t believe that base is original to it. If nothing was repainted it has the color of a later years machine. Usually also the machine with the enclosed base is a multi speed one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 1,941 #7 Posted June 23, 2021 @formariz, Just curious what size blade it takes? Mine is due for a new blade. Thanks. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #8 Posted June 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bill D said: @formariz, Just curious what size blade it takes? Mine is due for a new blade. Thanks. Bill Double check me on this, but I think 93-1/2" from what I've read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,988 #9 Posted June 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bill D said: @formariz, Just curious what size blade it takes? Mine is due for a new blade. Thanks. Bill 1/8”to 3/4”x93-1/2” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,113 #10 Posted June 23, 2021 I just split up some birch. I set aside a piece with some really interesting grain. Wish I had a saw like that to process that piece of wood into planks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,988 #11 Posted June 23, 2021 46 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: I just split up some birch. I set aside a piece with some really interesting grain. Wish I had a saw like that to process that piece of wood into planks. Bandsaw is the most versatile shop machine. I use a resawing 3/4” blade in it for that purpose which is a very large part of what I do with it. However for the real big stuff I turn to the one below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,988 #12 Posted June 23, 2021 3 hours ago, 71_Bronco said: I'll also keep you guys hanging as to what I paid The light ( retirement light) is worth over $100.00. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #13 Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, formariz said: The light ( retirement light) is worth over $100.00. I'll be extra careful with it then, as the light alone is worth more than I am paying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #14 Posted June 23, 2021 Also, on a side note, I only have the 1 picture I posted above. I dont have any pics of the back (or any potential belt guard), nor do I know what it has for a motor. Seller does say it runs fine though, which is good news. The loose wire poking out near the switch has me a little concerned though lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,988 #15 Posted June 23, 2021 That is a very simple rugged machine. Does not require a very powerful motor and wiring is simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,355 #16 Posted June 23, 2021 A variable frequency drive might be just the thing for your saw. Here is a video to show one, there are many types available. It might seem to be complicated, but having a full range of speeds for the saw may be worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #17 Posted June 24, 2021 If I recall correctly, don't I lose hp when slowing a motor down with a VFD? If so, that may be an issue, as im slowing it down to cut steel. I assume I'd need the power to bite through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,988 #18 Posted June 24, 2021 I don’t know what type of work you do but I don’t think you need to get that fancy about it. Mine I inherited from a friends father and the set up he has works fine including the wood pulley. He was a shipwrights and cut mostly up to 1/2” thick brass and bronze with it ( I inherited a lot of that too) . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seuadr 488 #19 Posted June 25, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 8:12 PM, 71_Bronco said: If I recall correctly, don't I lose hp when slowing a motor down with a VFD? If so, that may be an issue, as im slowing it down to cut steel. I assume I'd need the power to bite through. you do, but not torque - that said, you'll be shelling out a few hundred for a VFD and on old motors without grounding rings or proper insulation you can run into shaft grounding problems, i'd think that the alternative pully something like shown above would be a cheaper and more stout route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #20 Posted June 26, 2021 Just picked up the saw, heading back now. Pics soon to follow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #21 Posted June 26, 2021 Well, here she is. Have to do a full clean-up, and decide if I want to keep the light or not. Its currently half wired. Not sure where the black wire is supposed to go (assuming the white is correct). I do need a new lower table bracket (see pic) as its broken. Came with a 3/8, 6tpi blade that looks pretty decent. Currently its a single speed, with a 6" pulley on the wheel, and a 3" pulley on the motor. Motor is a 1725 RPM, 1hp Leeson. I doubt its the factory motor, especially if the lower enclosure is from a newer saw. All this for the low price of $50 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #22 Posted June 26, 2021 And a few more pictures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #23 Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) Oh, and I also got these from him. He was cleaning out his garage and just kept putting stuff in my truck he didn't want anymore Said he was moving and was trying to purge everything he didn't want to take with him. No idea what im going to do with the door jam kit, but it can't hurt to have on hand. Edited June 26, 2021 by 71_Bronco 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 1,941 #24 Posted June 26, 2021 Beautiful. You stole it. That bracket should still be available new online or used on eBay. Connect the black and white wires from the lamp to the black and white wires of the power cord you plug into the wall. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #25 Posted June 26, 2021 Okay, adjusted everything and went to do some testing. Have 2 problems. 1. Switch seems to be going bad. Sometimes when I hit start, it doesn't do anything. I press stop and start a few times, and then it decides to power up and run. Either the switch is bad or I have a poor connection. 2. The bottom tire keeps jumping off. I assume its because its old, worn, and not glued on anymore. I made sure to adjust the tracking, adjusted the blade guides, and made sure nothing was wrong. When spun by hand, it works fine. Once you power it up, the tire slings off right away. I was planning on getting a new set of urethane tires for it anyways, but now I have a legitimate excuse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites