formariz 11,987 #1 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) The latest horrible news that hit closer to a lot of us since it affects someone well known and cared for by us all , should make all of us take pause and reflect on this type of sad event reported every single day sometimes more than once. Indeed to quote someone " what is wrong with us?" that this type of tragedy and waste of human life keeps happening and we seem to now treat it as regular news. What makes the mind of "supposedly" the most intelligent creature on earth have these thoughts and do terrible things that no other animal on the face of the earth does. And what also makes that mind unable to do anything about it? Is this a sign of faulty upbringing? The decline of decency and morality in our society? I think we all agree that this is terribly wrong and yet we squabble on the reasons or any inkling of a solution for a "cure" for this terrible disease. We listen to the news and just shake our heads in disbelief. That is until it starts hitting close to home which unfortunately then its too late . Does it have to be like the Holocaust that people will only believe it once the videos of atrocities are shown? Is that what it takes ? For it to happen to each one of us for then to be acted upon? It is with sadness but with conviction that I say my friends, that if this continues for much longer it may be the beginning of the end of this society, this way of life and even possibly of this "paradise" that we all flocked to at one time or another. We should all be outwardly outraged and embarrassed by these events to the point that we act. I hope that it does not get closer to home, but the odds seem to be against that. To the point that now it is constantly in our minds where ever we go just like a cancer we may have had. The fear of it never leaves our minds. Its another way of loosing a precious freedom that we don't think of, or complain of losing often. Peace of mind. Edited June 14, 2021 by formariz 2 1 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #2 Posted June 14, 2021 Too many people are more concerned about the criminal than the victim.... 6 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 9,981 #3 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) It's getting to be as bad over here in some places. Especially London. Mainly knife crime but sometimes illegally held guns are involved. We have quite strict gun laws and guns are not in anyway as easy to acquire as in the States. To be honest, I can't understand anyone wanting to walk around with a pistol or any other fire arm. Why would you want an assault rifle? Also thanks to the do gooder's etc things are loaded on the side of the criminal. Punishment in no way fits the crime. Discipline has gone down the drain. In the home and in the schools. Respect? What's that? BTW. I'm not anti guns. I have two shotgun's myself. They are locked away in a gun safe along with the cartridges up in the house loft. I can only go on land where I have permission and if I was to carry one uncovered and in public I get arrested, fined, guns confiscated and possibly jailed. Edited June 14, 2021 by Stormin 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #4 Posted June 14, 2021 IDK No value for human life? No respect for the laws and those that enforce them? No self control? No accountability? No responsibility? No standards on behavior? Just plain nothing! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #5 Posted June 14, 2021 4 hours ago, roadapples said: Too many people are more concerned about the criminal than the victim.... Very true. However to get to the root of the problem we need to understand also what drives people to this madness. Ignoring that does not help in the solution which inevitably is multifaceted. Trust me, I have no sympathy for someone who decides to pick up a gun and take out their anger and frustrations on innocent people despite whatever their mental state is. My immediate method of punishment is not fit to be mentioned here. ( Some very old cultures elsewhere may have the right idea after all ). We have to however deal with that also otherwise it just continues. Too many of us are just set on our ways not wanting to have an open mind and sticking to old ways and beliefs. Who knows wether this is already a consequence of that stubbornness or not. Those of you who know me know that I do believe and practice many old ways . However I know when they may have to be put aside for the common good of others around me because after all it’s not about me or what I want but the common well being of the many that I may have an impact on. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
305 380 #6 Posted June 14, 2021 we are living in a Bizarro World from the urban dictionary: A world where everything is the exact opposite. Up is down, first is last, good is bad, wrong is right, white is black, logical is illogical, giving is taking, insanity is sane, liberty is tyranny, and vice versa. It's a place where literally, the sky is forest green and the trees are sky blue. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,099 #7 Posted June 14, 2021 This year I am serving on the grand jury for our county. Though we are a small rural county there has been a large backlog of cases from 2020 due to covid 19 so we have had four sessions so far this year. Each time I leave the courthouse I am saddened thinking of the terrible things people are wiling to do to others. The sad part is that many of the perpetrator's of these crimes have been set free from previous similar events and will probably be back on the streets too soon. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #8 Posted June 15, 2021 Duh, cut the cord. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #9 Posted June 15, 2021 I can only speak for myself, but I grew up on westerns and bar room fights. And to this day mostly what I watch is shoot em ups. If TV and movies had anything to do with it, I'd have my own graveyard... 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,130 #10 Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) Definitely bizarro world. Where black was white, and white was orange! Edited June 15, 2021 by AMC RULES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,985 #11 Posted June 15, 2021 Answers and solutions are surely difficult to come by. I'm not sure if things are worse or if it's more of an ebb and flow or if it's just a higher barrage of information that makes it seem worse. Some interesting statistics here https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-union/crime/ Without pretending to know any answers it's my belief that the most improvement could come with better teaching of the children. Are simple common courtesy and right and wrong even taught to children anymore? Or how to deal with disappointment? Life does NOT provide a participation trophy so you're Not entitled to one. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1995 520H+96+97 937 #12 Posted June 16, 2021 16 hours ago, wallfish said: I'm not sure if things are worse or if it's more of an ebb and flow January 6, 2021. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
