1973 16 Auto Help

[bellevillerod 834]

Hey guys,

 I just saved another piece of old Iron from the scrap heap. A guy that works at my shop bought a small hobby farm from a deceased family member. He tried to use the tractor but broke a belt, so he parked it and went to Home Depot and bought a new unit. Got a call and was asked if I wanted it.....as my truck was being started I got the address. I have to say the OP must have cared for this tractor and maintained it well. Their are the normal things that go bad but it sure is in great shape for a 73. Having a hard time finding the belt sizes for it though. Sure one of you know offhand what they are. Need the belt for the 48in deck and for the drive unit. Thanks guys

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,046]

Click on the picture in the link. Drive belt is on the page that comes up.

May not be the deck you have but the belts will be the same. Click on the fuzzy picture

Garry

[haydendavid380 759]

I didn't know any of those came with electric pto's

[Ed Kennell 38,227]

Wow, your lucky day.  Great looking tractor. 

[paxz71usa 173]

I have a '73 12 automatic and it is a fantastic machine. I think you'll really like this tractor!

 

         Gary

 

 

[1973Auto 80]

I have a 12 hp 73. Got it with the electric pto. Great machine. Nice find

[8ntruck 7,016]

Good find.  I think you will like it.

I've got a '73 14hp gear jammer.  It has done everything I've asked it to do.

 

[bellevillerod 834]

5 hours ago, gwest_ca said:

Click on the picture in the link. Drive belt is on the page that comes up.

May not be the deck you have but the belts will be the same. Click on the fuzzy picture

Garry

Wow lol I downloaded that file before posting and read it through....belt size is on the first page...DUH   thanks

[bellevillerod 834]

1 hour ago, 8ntruck said:

Good find.  I think you will like it.

I've got a '73 14hp gear jammer.  It has done everything I've asked it to do.

 

I have a 75 C160 Auto and they are real close to each other. It needs a good tune up, pull head and clean carbon. Looks like there are some air leaks on the #30 carb. Small stuff. It also has the HD engine from what I have read, it has 13 fins on it. Don't know much about those other than you can really open up the bore on those if you wanted to. 

[ebinmaine 67,610]

6 hours ago, bellevillerod said:

I have a 75 C160 Auto and they are real close to each other. It needs a good tune up, pull head and clean carbon. Looks like there are some air leaks on the #30 carb. Small stuff. It also has the HD engine from what I have read, it has 13 fins on it. Don't know much about those other than you can really open up the bore on those if you wanted to. 

Great save on that one Rod!!

 

Should be a near identical machine to the C-160 other than name. 

 

Where are the air leaks on the carb?

Likely can be fixed with a proper washer in the top of the bore.  

Best to rebuild and repair that one, not get new.  

 

12 vs 13 fin for a stock tractor engine isn't a concern. 

For rebuild and high performance however those 13 fin blocks are desirable to some. 

I've no real experience with that but have read that a 13 fin can be punched a fair amount which can certainly do interesting things to the power output. 

 

 

Glad to see you floating around here!

 

Looking forward to seeing what you do with that rig. 

Definitely a "bucket list" tractor for many folks... And you have two!!

 

[bellevillerod 834]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

Great save on that one Rod!!

 

Should be a near identical machine to the C-160 other than name. 

 

Where are the air leaks on the carb?

Likely can be fixed with a proper washer in the top of the bore.  

Best to rebuild and repair that one, not get new.  

 

12 vs 13 fin for a stock tractor engine isn't a concern. 

For rebuild and high performance however those 13 fin blocks are desirable to some. 

I've no real experience with that but have read that a 13 fin can be punched a fair amount which can certainly do interesting things to the power output. 

 

 

Glad to see you floating around here!

 

Looking forward to seeing what you do with that rig. 

Definitely a "bucket list" tractor for many folks... And you have two!!

 

The shafts have worn the carb body some, you can wiggle the main throttle shaft back an forth. I know you can get a China Carb for next to nothing. but I'd rather install a bushing in an original. Runs really well but has a slight miss here an their. I still have to do the points and set the governor.....Not looking to make a puller so the 13 fin does nothing for me, ya read it has a thicker wall than a 12 fin. Neat to have in the herd. Still floating around been real busy around here, about to finish up the 854. 

[ebinmaine 67,610]

1 minute ago, bellevillerod said:

The shafts have worn the carb body some, you can wiggle the main throttle shaft back an forth. I know you can get a China Carb for next to nothing. but I'd rather install a bushing in an original

Is it just on top or both ends?

Top is an easy enough fix. 

I'd love to learn how to do the bottom bore but I have no machinery.  

 

Absolutely agree with not using a cheap carb.  

Haven't had any luck with them. 

[bellevillerod 834]

Has a neat headlight lens on it. I haven't seen one myself, chrome horse with a black wheel. It's in great shape makes me want to remove it and stash before I go and break it. Wonder when they stopped using that lens and went to the "cheaper" looking lens.

[Pullstart 62,911]

Back Rod!  Nice score!

[bellevillerod 834]

1 hour ago, pullstart said:

Back Rod!  Nice score!

Never really left.......just stop in an read some. Been working insane hours trying to launch the new electric F-150 truck. I personally prefer the dinosaur juice in my trucks, but some knucklehead green new deal guy wants electric.........Sweet Truck though. 

[8ntruck 7,016]

A fellow Michigander and auto industry worker, I see.  I spent 40 years as an engineer working for Motor Wheel, Hayes Wheel, then Maxion Wheels. New product launches are tough.

 

I wonder if a spot of grease or drop of oil in the bottom carb shaft bore would help stop an air leak there, or if it would gum things up too much for the gonvener operation.

[haydendavid380 759]

8 hours ago, bellevillerod said:

Has a neat headlight lens on it. I haven't seen one myself, chrome horse with a black wheel. It's in great shape makes me want to remove it and stash before I go and break it. Wonder when they stopped using that lens and went to the "cheaper" looking lens.

They're still available  NOS

 

[Thor27 769]

24 minutes ago, haydendavid380 said:

 

 

 

Sorry, Double post

Edited June 6, 2021 by Thor27
double post, tried to delete

[Thor27 769]

4 minutes ago, Thor27 said:

 That is the newer style.  The 3D chrome horse is hard to find.

 

image is not mine, found on net...

 

Edited June 6, 2021 by Thor27

[haydendavid380 759]

Good to know. Never seen that one.

[squonk 41,155]

73 may have been the last year for that lens. My 73 12 had the same lens. Really sharp looking compared to the newer one.

[bellevillerod 834]

That's the one I have, like I said never saw one before. It's in excellent condition.

1 hour ago, Thor27 said:

 

 

[bellevillerod 834]

6 hours ago, 8ntruck said:

A fellow Michigander and auto industry worker, I see.  I spent 40 years as an engineer working for Motor Wheel, Hayes Wheel, then Maxion Wheels. New product launches are tough.

 

I wonder if a spot of grease or drop of oil in the bottom carb shaft bore would help stop an air leak there, or if it would gum things up too much for the gonvener operation.

Ya this truck launch was like I had never been a part of before. They really triple checked everything, had to be right. Lot's of people watching this truck. I'm a Tool & Die Maker so anything they didn't have or they needed I was tasked with making. Lot of long nights but fun to be a small part of. 5 more years.................fingers crossed.

Edited June 7, 2021 by bellevillerod