New 2 Deeres

[Oldskool 6,644]

I just bought 2 John Deeres. Believe it or not I bought them at a yard sale. One is a 110 and one is a 112. With a bunch of attachments.  I'm new to the JDs. Ive always liked the round fendered models but never had a chance to buy one. Now luckily enough I have 2. I would like to get the 112 running first and attach the tiller. I may be in need of some help getting this all together.

[elcamino/wheelhorse 9,297]

What caliber pistol were you packing ? 

[oliver2-44 9,743]

While the 110 and 112 are simpler in comparison to the later John Deeres, your about to learn and appreciate how much simpler a Wheelhorse is to work on.!  

[Oldskool 6,644]

2 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said:

While the 110 and 112 are simpler in comparison to the later John Deeres, your about to learn and appreciate how much simpler a Wheelhorse is to work on.!  

I kinda noticed that when I saw the mounting brackets for the attachments and the lack of room to work on the engine. Well if nothing else later on those Deere can always turn in Horses lol

[ebinmaine 67,460]

6 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

While the 110 and 112 are simpler in comparison to the later John Deeres, your about to learn and appreciate how much simpler a Wheelhorse is to work on.!  

 

7 hours ago, Oldskool said:

Ive always liked the round fendered models

 

 

6 hours ago, Oldskool said:

I kinda noticed that when I saw the mounting brackets for the attachments and the lack of room to work on the engine. Well if nothing else later on those Deere can always turn in Horses 

 

 

Yepp. 

 

 

Something about the lines on those has always been attractive to me. 

 

We have Wheelhorses because of the ease of use. 

Once you get it all hooked up you can just leave it right connected so that's a huge advantage for you. 

 

 I'm not familiar enough with those to know the inherent ups/downs but as far as I know they're a good rugged rig. 

 

@Chris G recently did a nice freshening on one. 

 

Nice find and keep us posted!

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

The round fender John Deeres were the first tractors Deere produced in the L&G market.  The 110 came out first in 1963.  The 112 joined it in 1966.  In 1968, Deere redesigned the 110 and 112 and were known as the square fender models.

 

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[Oldskool 6,644]

@T-Mo thanks for the link

[Oldskool 6,644]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Something about the lines on those has always been attractive to me. 

 

Once you get it all hooked up you can just leave it right connected so that's a huge advantage for you.

 

Nice find and keep us posted!

They do have a great look.

I think I may just keep one.

Once the tiller is on one (112) I think it will just stay there. It already has the extra drive pulleys on it and more hp.

[ebinmaine 67,460]

Just now, Oldskool said:

They do have a great look.

I think I may just keep one.

Once the tiller is on one (112) I think it will just stay there. It already has the extra drive pulleys on it and more hp.

Do those have a low range transmission for very slow moving?

[squonk 41,081]

9 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

While the 110 and 112 are simpler in comparison to the later John Deeres, your about to learn and appreciate how much simpler a Wheelhorse is to work on.!  

Yup.I always liked the looks of those, but from what I've heard they are a PITA to work on.

[OldWorkHorse 3,045]

I was a little nervous clicking on this post... wasn't sure where the comments were gonna go , so far so good. I personally like the round fender JDs and was secretly thinking of acquiring one. Guess I got to go hit some lawn sales! Nice score!

Edited May 19, 2021 by OldWorkHorse

[EricF 589]

I have a soft spot for the older JD garden tractors, having grown up with a "square fender" 112 in the family. Bought it in 1970, and it was the only tractor they ever on that property until sometime in the early 2000's. (Don't know what happened to it due to an unfortunate divorce situation.)

 

The round fender tractors are interesting, being belt-driven off the side but with a very low "tunnel" in the middle, more like what you find in a shaft-drive tractor or a vertical-engine lawn tractor. The square fender style was a total design revision, and it has a more typical tall tunnel for the drive belts and lift brackets. Engine and PTO shrouding were also simplified (but still very enclosed in Deere tradition) in the switch between generations. Implement linkages bracketry and some parts of the lift linkages changed between generations too, becoming somewhat simpler/more modular in the square fender era. Either way, implements basically hang off the ends of the tractor and the (very robust) center lift assembly. JD doesn't use anything like the mid-hitch setup that WH has in the Attach-A-Matic system. That's largely because the area midway along the length of the tractor is filled up with the variator drive components as well as the implement lift parts. Everything goes in between the frame rails on a JD.

 

The mower decks are fairly easy to take on and off -- just fiddle with the lifting arms and the front brackets; JD uses (proprietary) quarter-turn knobs with spring catches, and sometimes J-hooks with springs on the front of the mowers. The round fenders at least don't have to thread the mower belt up through the frame and then onto the PTO, which is easier than the square fender ones where it's kept inside the frame rails. JD mower decks hang all their weight from the deck lift. The depth is adjusted by a stop on the tractor, and the rear wheels just skim the ground but don't support the weight -- very different from WH where the rear wheels are truly the height setting. It does allow you to set the cut height to anything you want, which JD promoted heavily.

 

The real "fun" (not...) with these JD's is changing the drive belts. There are two -- The "primary" one from the engine to the variator, and then the "secondary" from the variator to the transmission input. They're not particularly complicated, but the clearances aren't terrific which makes for plenty of knuckle-skinning opportunities. Aging tractors also may need work on the variator assembly due to aging bearings -- and that job has developed a reputation for not being particularly fun. The assembly is tucked up in the frame, and there are the springs and such to deal with. On the other hand, the variator system is really nice to use, since you can set your gear and still adjust travel speed over a wide range in each gear.

 

JD certainly engineered these machines well. But even then, they had an eye toward convenience as well as operator safety that tipped the balance away from ease of serviceability. Which of course benefitted the shops. They tended to use a rotating lift that clamped the frame of the tractor and allowed it to be turned on its side or upside-down at standing height, which makes a lot of things easier to accomplish when you have to get into the drive belts or lift assembly. And of course a non-trivial share of proprietary JD-specific parts in various places. Honestly, though, JD was never alone in that respect. We're just all spoiled with the standardization and off-the-shelf common machine parts approach used by Wheel Horse. 

[Oldskool 6,644]

5 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Do those have a low range transmission for very slow moving?

Not this one. It actually has the same trans as my Speedex.

[Oldskool 6,644]

5 hours ago, squonk said:

Yup.I always liked the looks of those, but from what I've heard they are a PITA to work on.

I'm starting to find that out. 

[Oldskool 6,644]

3 hours ago, OldWorkHorse said:

I was a little nervous clicking on this post... wasn't sure where the comments were gonna go , so far so good. I personally like the round fender JDs and was secretly thinking of acquiring one. Guess I got to go hit some lawn sales! Nice score!

You never know with this bunch where the topic may skew too. 🤣🤣

And yes you just never know what you will find at a yard sale.

[Chris G 3,296]

Great find!!! There a pretty nice machine to operate. They are a bit more complex then a wheel horse. But in my opinion fairly easy to work on, once u have a good understanding how everything moves and functions. This is the one i just went through.  2 before and 3 after. 

Edited May 19, 2021 by Chris G

[Oldskool 6,644]

@Chris G awesome job on that Deere. I'm diggin it. I just looked up my numbers. Seems both are  1967s. They cant be any worse to work on then a ride on Murray lawn mower. LOL. 

[OldWorkHorse 3,045]

Here's a parts diagram for your new tractor 

[Oldskool 6,644]

3 minutes ago, OldWorkHorse said:

Here's a parts diagram for your new tractor 

Oh..Nice!! The 3D version. It's so realistic. If I scratch the picture does it smell like paint,rubber, and gasoline?

[OldWorkHorse 3,045]

10 minutes ago, Oldskool said:

Oh..Nice!! The 3D version. It's so realistic. If I scratch the picture does it smell like paint,rubber, and gasoline?

No, this one is fresh cut grass. 

[ebinmaine 67,460]

Well played men. Well played. 

 

[Oldskool 6,644]

Bahdumbum that's right folk we'll be here all week.

[Oldskool 6,644]

Messed around with the ole JD 110 today. 

 

I put a test light to the ignition to quickly see where I stood because there wasnt any fire to the plug. A quick points filing and good to go.

 

Also pulled the bowl and gave everthing a quick spray down. Hooked up a remote tank and and some booster cables. It started up. It was a rolling start but a start none the less. It will only idle so a full carb cleaning is a must.

 

NOW comes my biggest issue. While the engine turns over the dipstick jumps up and down like a rain flapper on an exhaust stack.

When the engine started, the dipstick popped rite out along with a constant spray of oil.

 

Could someone tell me the bad news for this little Kohler?

[ebinmaine 67,460]

Start by cleaning out the breather when you have the carb off. 

Could be plugged solid. 

 

A leak down test would be a valuable thing here too.  

[Oldskool 6,644]

47 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Start by cleaning out the breather 

So there is a breather. I figured there would be somewhere just wasnt sure where