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I just bought a B 80 that is in rough shape with the original K181 8 horse power motor for $50 but the rod let go and cracked the camshaft in half and it didn't damage the bore and everything else inside the engine is untouched by the debris because the guy that owned it before me was smart enough not to keep on turning the starter.

does anyone know where I can find a cam shaft for this B 80 8 speed that isn't $200?

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Pullstart

I have a K-161 I believe that I’ve robbed some parts from.  I have no idea if it’s the same cam...

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Jonnyrocket132

is it an 8 horse power Kohler engine?

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WHX??
41 minutes ago, pullstart said:

I have no idea if it’s the same cam...

Bet it is... Check the part numbers or compare pics. Part number might be cast into it.  161 is a 7 but same innards. 

Put an ad in wanted Johnny ... some body is gonna have that cam. Keep an eye on fleabay too. 

Same thing happened to a 301 for me and @Shynon had a cam. 

When the rod goes it will only go two ways, one it going to bust the cam, the other is ventilating the block. 

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Bailey855
12 hours ago, Jonnyrocket132 said:

I just bought a B 80 that is in rough shape with the original K181 8 horse power motor for $50 but the rod let go and cracked the camshaft in half and it didn't damage the bore and everything else inside the engine is untouched by the debris because the guy that owned it before me was smart enough not to keep on turning the starter.

does anyone know where I can find a cam shaft for this B 80 8 speed that isn't $200?

I have a parts b80 that I would sell you as far as I know motor is good and complete. It’s listed on here and I’m flexible on price. Not firm.   Located near the big show 

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Jonnyrocket132

yeah that is too far away for me I live in Adamstown MD 

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Bailey855
17 minutes ago, Jonnyrocket132 said:

yeah that is too far away for me I live in Adamstown MD 

Your an hour and half from me lol 

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WHX??

He must be walking Bailey :ychain: 

That is a good deal on that tractor guy. If  I wasn't tractor heavy... The motor alone plus parts! Bet I could have that motor running in an hour. 

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Jonnyrocket132

I would if I could drive but my dad doesn't want to drive that far(he is kind of lazy)

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WHX??

We understand Johnny... looks like Richmond has got you fixed up, good man & keep us posted you get her running. 

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Jonnyrocket132

will do, thank you for all the help

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Bailey855
1 hour ago, WHX24 said:

He must be walking Bailey :ychain: 

That is a good deal on that tractor guy. If  I wasn't tractor heavy... The motor alone plus parts! Bet I could have that motor running in an hour. 

The longer I keep it the more I want to touch it :rolleyes:  but I know once I get it going I want want to get rid of it lol. 

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Bailey855
38 minutes ago, Jonnyrocket132 said:

will do, thank you for all the help

If you change your mind and or are going to the big show In June I can bring it or meet you. Best of luck! 

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stevasaurus

I think the cam in the K-161 is a 2 piece...the cam in the K-181 is a one piece.  :confusion-confused:

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WHX??

Now yer gonna go make me look Steve! :angry-tappingfoot:

 

A-231511-S comes up as a good PN for both motors  but it does depend  on spec number. Guessing ACR has something to do with it. 

 

A-230155-S also comes up as a good PN for both too one has a metal gear one 231511 has a plastic. 

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Bailey855
1 hour ago, WHX24 said:

Now yer gonna go make me look Steve! :angry-tappingfoot:

 

A-231511-S comes up as a good PN for both motors  but it does depend  on spec number. Guessing ACR has something to do with it. 

 

A-230155-S also comes up as a good PN for both too one has a metal gear one 231511 has a plastic. 

I did some reading awhile back and your right acr does have somthing to do with it. Looks like around 1964 it changed possibly? 

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Jonnyrocket132

wait, so the B 80 is from 1964? I know I could look at the sticker that says the model number but the previous owner when he repainted it (with spray paint) he painted over the model number sticker 

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Bailey855
8 hours ago, Jonnyrocket132 said:

wait, so the B 80 is from 1964? I know I could look at the sticker that says the model number but the previous owner when he repainted it (with spray paint) he painted over the model number sticker 

No I read somewhere the cams were changed around 64 to the current ACR cam. B80 is from the early to mid 70s

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WHX??
1 hour ago, Bailey855 said:

cams were changed around 64 to the current ACR cam.

My research shows that as well. I did have a K241 in the restoed 1055 that did not have the ACR so maybe a left over '64 motor? 

We talk abit about it on page two of the resto thread.

Two 1055's - Restorations, Modifications, & Customizations - RedSquare Wheel Horse Forum

Interesting enough too Bailey my 1045 with the short pan often struggles to roll the motor over. Never bothered to look see what cam is in it tho.  

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Jonnyrocket132

oh okay, because I have been trying to find out what year my B 80 8 speed manual is since you know the model number sticker was painted over

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WHX??
17 minutes ago, Jonnyrocket132 said:

what year my B 80

Some pictures of it might help nail that down. A best guess would be in the 1974-1976 range. 

@stevasaurus what did you say we use to remove paint over model stickers? I use acetone on metal ones but not sure if that should be used on the decal ones. 

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Bailey855
2 hours ago, WHX24 said:

My research shows that as well. I did have a K241 in the restoed 1055 that did not have the ACR so maybe a left over '64 motor? 

We talk abit about it on page two of the resto thread.

Two 1055's - Restorations, Modifications, & Customizations - RedSquare Wheel Horse Forum

Interesting enough too Bailey my 1045 with the short pan often struggles to roll the motor over. Never bothered to look see what cam is in it tho.  

Hey as long as they run!   Somthing about an idling 8 or 10 horsepower k series just a popping away slowly gives me the fizz :D

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WHX??

Engine numbers dates it to a 1975 Johnny. Spec # is also correct for that year so 1975 it is.  If there is a model number under the paint it should be a 1-0141. 

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Jonnyrocket132

thank you, that helps me when I go to look for parts

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