squonk 41,155 #26 Posted May 18, 2021 Reading the instructions for this tach, it has a setting for firing every other rev so it will work on a Kohler single. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002033206119.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.63c939a8YLfHob&algo_pvid=676ca6e9-219e-4861-8335-8f4638758518&algo_expid=676ca6e9-219e-4861-8335-8f4638758518-4&btsid=0bb0623b16213737382306251e1791&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tractorhead 9,064 #27 Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, squonk said: Reading the instructions for this tach, it has a setting for firing every other rev so it will work on a Kohler single. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002033206119.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.63c939a8YLfHob&algo_pvid=676ca6e9-219e-4861-8335-8f4638758518&algo_expid=676ca6e9-219e-4861-8335-8f4638758518-4&btsid=0bb0623b16213737382306251e1791&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ Hey Mike the solution is as simple as it sounds, you just have to look for a Tacho, that is configurable for a 2 Stroke singlecylindre Engine because they fire every rev That‘s the 2 stroke rules. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,155 #28 Posted May 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tractorhead said: Hey Mike the solution is as simple as it sounds, you just have to look for a Tacho, that is configurable for a 2 Stroke singlecylindre Engine because they fire every rev That‘s the 2 stroke rules. 👍 I need one that fired every other rev. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tractorhead 9,064 #29 Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, squonk said: I need one that fired every other rev. PM sent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #30 Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Tomorrow I am going to hook this up to one of my tractors, and compare it to a digital hand held. If it's not still raining. Edited May 18, 2021 by Gregor 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R Scheer 502 #31 Posted May 18, 2021 The "Tiny Tach" works fine with my Kohler Magnum 12. Shows the corrdct RPM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tractorhead 9,064 #32 Posted May 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Gregor said: If it's not still raining. Oh. Common mow the Waterline... but don‘t forget the evidence pic.. 😂😂😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #33 Posted May 19, 2021 I have the 876 up to the garage. I think a neighbor might want to kill me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,618 #34 Posted May 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Gregor said: . I think a neighbor might want to kill me. Why? Can't take the sound? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #35 Posted May 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Why? Can't take the sound? I had to move 3 tractors out to get to this one. I wanted a Kohler with battery ignition. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,618 #36 Posted May 19, 2021 If I had neighbors that were upset when I moved a tractor I'd park a dozen running in the driveway. But I'm a stinker. ✔️. Does not play well with others. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #37 Posted May 19, 2021 Kohler 8 HP with battery ignition The 2 tachs. 1P1r 4 wraps 1P2r 4 wraps Digital hand held Not easy to see 1578 I tried both 4 and 5 wraps around plug wire. didn't seem to make much difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #38 Posted May 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: If I had neighbors that were upset when I moved a tractor I'd park a dozen running in the driveway. They don't usually mind, except maybe at 2:45 AM 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #39 Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) And since I have another tach, may as well check that one out. This one is both a contact, and a laser. I think the contact type is the easiest to use. No guessing on the # of wraps. No applying reflective tape, and then trying to hold your laser steady on that tape. Hold the tach on the end of the shaft, your done. After taking all these readings, I adjusted my idle back down to 1300 RPM. Not sure what it should be. Edited May 19, 2021 by Gregor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,618 #40 Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gregor said: adjusted my idle back down to 1300 RPM. Not sure what it should be. Should be 1200 RPM. That said, my c-160 doesn't like to run right below 1250 or 1300 for some reason and that's with two different carburetors on it. So I leave the idle about 1300, 1350. To be honest I don't know that it matters all that much because these air-cooled engines should NEVER be at idle unless they're about to be shut off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikMacMike 479 #41 Posted May 19, 2021 17 hours ago, ebinmaine said: It's because for the most part you don't actually need one. Most if not all wheel horses say by the book that with a hydro you should ALWAYS be at 3600 RPM. You need to keep it at full RPM for the best cooling and fluid flow characteristics. For the most part a manual transmission is the same. The only exception I'm aware of is a sickle mower but I'm certainly open to correction from much more experienced people. Disclaimers. Is that how I run my manual transmission tractors? No. Do we pay close attention to make sure they're not overheating? Yes. Do I think tachometers and other gauges look super cool? Yes. The more the better. But I certainly understand the keep it simple theory. Having a hand held is excellent for tune up time, I guess if I was to install a very small one on a tractor is when you add non WH impliments, I just baught a chipper/shredder and I noticed that the suggested rpm was about 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,618 #42 Posted May 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, MikMacMike said: I just baught a chipper/shredder and I noticed that the suggested rpm was about 2000 Double check where that stated RPM is. Some of them have direct drive, deer drive, reduction by belt pulley sizes, etc. My Mckissick chipper is one that mounts to the front of a tractor. I read somewhere that it wants an RPM around 2,800. Cinnamon horse c-160 is set to a top side of 3,300. Chipper pulley is bigger than the engine pulley so it should be just about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tractorhead 9,064 #43 Posted May 19, 2021 I don’t know if the Kohlers have a auto decompression, that can be the cause of the needed higher idle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOB ELLISON 2,981 #44 Posted May 19, 2021 Yes I did a post on this i just had to find it. The tachometer is still working fine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #45 Posted May 19, 2021 51 minutes ago, Tractorhead said: I don’t know if the Kohlers have a auto decompression, that can be the cause of the needed higher idle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,618 #46 Posted May 19, 2021 5 hours ago, BOB ELLISON said: Yes I did a post on this Thanks for sharing that Bob 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seuadr 488 #47 Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 5:03 AM, Gregor said: Kohler 8 HP with battery ignition The 2 tachs. I tried both 4 and 5 wraps around plug wire. didn't seem to make much difference. thanks for sharing your results - i was just looking at that unit because i also need an hour meter and well, 2 for 1, right?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #48 Posted May 20, 2021 The only bad thing about this unit is, you cannot shut it off. There is no switch. I always remove the battery. It does not seem to lose it's data though. It keeps the total hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charbs152 254 #49 Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/18/2021 at 7:26 AM, Gregor said: MMmmm Are you sure? The tiny tachs i've used have settings for different firing orders for different engine designs 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seuadr 488 #50 Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gregor said: The only bad thing about this unit is, you cannot shut it off. There is no switch. I always remove the battery. It does not seem to lose it's data though. It keeps the total hours. oh. the description suggested that it turns on when it senses spark 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites