Achto 27,604 #26 Posted May 10, 2021 In an attempt to pull this train back on the tracks I've been researching your first question @JCM. I have found the definition of a mule drive. Belt drive systems commonly known as mule drives are used to transmit power from a horizontally oriented drive shaft or PTO to vertically oriented spindles. Mule drives for mower decks include one or more guide sheaves that twist the belt to change its orientation from vertical to horizontal. Just can't find an origin for the name. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,828 #27 Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Achto said: Belt drive systems commonly known as mule drives are used to transmit powe Boy he pulled that one out of his rear Plunge.... 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,177 #28 Posted May 10, 2021 THANK YOU I figured when I started this the answer had a good chance to come from Wisconsin. Good work Dan. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,828 #29 Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, ranger said: Why doesn’t all the brightness escape when a light bulb breaks? It does... when Karl has the Christmas lights up at the top and we get to break them that's what keeps the screens lit up. Must be PFM! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,177 #30 Posted May 10, 2021 Jim, the plunger will be in the truck at the Show, just in case we need it to hit Dan over the head with it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,828 #31 Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, JCM said: case we need it to hit Dan over the head with it. Got real bad news Plunge ...knowing Dan he's most likely gonna fill it with Captain's and use it as a challis! 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,666 #32 Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Achto said: In an attempt to pull this train back on the tracks I've been researching your first question @JCM. I have found the definition of a mule drive. Belt drive systems commonly known as mule drives are used to transmit power from a horizontally oriented drive shaft or PTO to vertically oriented spindles. Mule drives for mower decks include one or more guide sheaves that twist the belt to change its orientation from vertical to horizontal. Just can't find an origin for the name. Go to Ebay type in mule drive and find the answer. All mule drives were a pain to install and remove until Wheel Horse jumped light years ahead of the rest with the Attach-A- Matic System. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,604 #33 Posted May 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, WHX24 said: Dan he's most likely gonna fill it with Captain's and use it as a challis! Might wipe it out with a grease rag first. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #34 Posted May 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, Lee1977 said: All mule drives were a pain to install and remove until Wheel Horse jumped light years ahead of the rest with the Attach-A- Matic System. Masseys are easy to install. Don't work worth a but there easy to install. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,173 #35 Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gregor said: Masseys are easy to install. Don't work worth a but there easy to install. And prone to failure - I think I have had to rebuild mine half a dozen times. each time gets more difficult. A WH drive will occasionally wear out a bearing, but otherwise .... it just keeps on Keeping on. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,604 #36 Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, seven said: Did they ever make a wheel horse go kart? Not to my knowledge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,912 #37 Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Achto said: Might wipe it out with a grease rag first. Might hafta’ put a little shine on the handle with the chrome brush too... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,912 #38 Posted May 10, 2021 3 hours ago, JCM said: Well we were doing good until page 6 from @ebinmaine , as I started to scroll down I started to see @Achto 's name and said to myself I can only imagine what i would read. And to think we have not even heard from @pullstart and @WHX24 yet, Oh boy. Here’s (probably a dumb) question... What makes you think I’d have a dumb question to ask? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,666 #39 Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, pullstart said: Here’s (probably a dumb) question... What makes you think I’d have a dumb question to ask? We get all our safety tips on what not to do. It has probley saved 5 pints of blood for the rest of us. There might have a benefit to getting your blood changed regularly. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,912 #40 Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lee1977 said: We get all our safety tips on what not to do. It has probley saved 5 pints of blood for the rest of us. There might have a benefit to getting your blood changed regularly. I donate as regularly as possible. Sometimes it even gets into a needle! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seuadr 488 #41 Posted May 10, 2021 Alright, i'll bite - how many ducks do you think it would take to defeat a single horse in combat? 16 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I was told when young that The ONLY stupid question is the one you DIDN'T ask. yeah, they told me that at school initially.. but then i opened my mouth and they changed the policy... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel Horse 3D 3,795 #42 Posted May 10, 2021 Maybe the term mule drive originated during the 18 and early 1900's and just kinda stuck for the portion that transfers the belt power from horizontal to vertical and vise versa 1 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricF 589 #43 Posted May 10, 2021 I've seen "mule drive" also refer to other forms of connecting the engine output to drive another mechanism with a reduction drive or other arrangement -- not necessarily making a change in belt orientation; just transferring the drive source from one part of the machinery to another to where there's a gearbox or complex belt drive or some sort at the other end. John Deere garden tractors, at least on the 112 series I was familiar with growing up, had the mule drive to the mower deck more or less permanently attached between the frame sides just below the PTO. I don't recall it ever being called a "mule drive" though, just "Belt Tensioner" or similar. Lots of different names for the same kind of mechanical arrangement. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel Horse 3D 3,795 #44 Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) Can imagine the meeting where they named the parts..."You know like one of those old thingies where they used a belt and mules!"... "Mule???... drive????".... "Yeah that'll work!" Edited May 10, 2021 by Wheel Horse 3D 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel Horse 3D 3,795 #45 Posted May 10, 2021 ook heres my stupid question, since a mule is the combination of a Horse and a donkey, what happens when I put my *butt* in the seat of the Wheel Horse? Is now a Wheel Mule? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,619 #46 Posted May 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Wheel Horse 3D said: ook heres my stupid question, since a mule is the combination of a Horse and a donkey, what happens when I put my *butt* in the seat of the Wheel Horse? Is now a Wheel Mule? 🤤 🤯 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #47 Posted May 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, Wheel Horse 3D said: ook heres my stupid question, since a mule is the combination of a Horse and a donkey, what happens when I put my *butt* in the seat of the Wheel Horse? Is now a Wheel Mule? Horse's A$$ . 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel Horse 3D 3,795 #48 Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, roadapples said: Horse's A$$ . So my presence in no way effects the pedigree of the horse, my butt pedigree is defined by the horse. Gotcha! As it should be i guess! Edited May 10, 2021 by Wheel Horse 3D 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pollack Pete 2,273 #49 Posted May 10, 2021 7 hours ago, WHX24 said: Think I'll just stay out of this one Plunge... well maybe not worked on a new to me C-121 yesterday so just to keep this in the tractor section... Why did they HAVE TO rivet the throttle & choke on the dash !?!?!? And rivet the headlight assembly to the hood on B and C series. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,666 #50 Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Pollack Pete said: And rivet the headlight assembly to the hood on B and C series. They had the rivets and needed a place to use them. It worked out good until you wanted to take it apart. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
