The C-175 Project

[Gregor 4,847]

Well, there it is, such as it is. Gonna need a little TLC.  It is a Briggs & Stratton, 18HP I/C Commercial engine. I tried to find serial number tags on the engine, but haven't yet. I was hoping for a Kohler, but I can live with it. As little as I know about Kohlers, I know even less, about B/S. I hope someone does. I have a battery charger on it, and I pulled and cleaned the plugs up a bit. I will hook a clean fuel line to it, and see what it does. "It ran when parked"  That was last spring, so I was told.

The numbers say 17KS02 - 5958   0028 Tractordata doesn't list a 17KS02

 

 

Can a compression test be done on this motor, or does it also have some type of compression release?

 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Gregor

[pfrederi 17,887]

Some light reading for you

 

 

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/file/5555-engine-b-s-twin-cylinder-l-head-smpdf/

[pfrederi 17,887]

[Maxwell-8 4,307]

The 01-17KS02 you have is a 1980 model and should have the sundstrad 90 hydro.

 

Special way off dealing with the plastic seat-pan.

 

The engine: indeed both cylinders should have an equally compression.  Ain't a Kohler but at least it's an opposed which is stronger then the V briggs.

Edited May 9, 2021 by Maxwell-8

[ebinmaine 68,441]

 

You've got a good base to build on there, and for a good price. 

Those older flat twin Briggs are well thought of. 

This should be a good learning experience type project for you. 

 

[Gregor 4,847]

My 175 has a Sundstrand trans in it, which means it has a freewheeling valve. Of course this valve is stuck tight, and refuses to move. Just like my 141, I never did get it freed up. I have to pull this tractor to my storage for a while. Would I be better of to drain the trans, or would that do more harm than good?

[pfrederi 17,887]

If the hydro is good shape you are in for a serious drag if you have to go more than a foot or 2.  Can you put the rear end on a movers dolly??

[Gregor 4,847]

19 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

 Can you put the rear end on a movers dolly??

Not and drag it 200' through my yard.

 

And yes, it does push very hard

Edited May 11, 2021 by Gregor

[pfrederi 17,887]

If the hydro is in good shape you will not be able to push it more than a very few feet before you have the tires sliding...

[ebinmaine 68,441]

5 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

If the hydro is in good shape you will not be able to push it more than a very few feet before you have the tires sliding...

Can that push / toe valve be freed up with something like heat or penetrating oil? Huge leverage? Anything like that?

[peter lena 8,733]

@GREGOR, another thing I have done on first engine try starting , is to use a separate gallon of gas jug , eliminating the usual tank debris and clogged gas lines. also add a can of seafoam to that gallon  of  gas, just get it going if possible , and wake it up slowly . just checking out its basic function . usually run it till hot and do a  oil drain , refill ,add   a few ounces of rislone engine flush , to help clean out the crud and varnish . while running lubricate , cables linkages , help it run easier . just my own experience , pete

[Gregor 4,847]

It's just possible it won't go to the storage shed. In a few days, when I have to turn this place into a paint booth again, it sure is gonna be in the way.

1 minute ago, peter lena said:

another thing I have done on first engine try starting ,

Well duh. I am reinstalling the carb now. It's just possible I can drive it around.

[Gregor 4,847]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

Can that push / toe valve be freed up with something like heat or penetrating oil? Huge leverage? Anything like that?

I tried all that on my 141, never got anywhere. I don't have the fender off yet, so I'll give it another crack when I can get at it better.

 

Three times while trying to start this thing yesterday and Sunday, it puked enormous amounts of gas into the carb. So much so, that I have changed the oil, 3 times. I was actually able to get a carb kit, and manifold gaskets in town yesterday, so I let it soak in Berrymans for several hours, then ran it through a couple cycles in my sonic cleaner. and installed the kit. A bit different than a Kohler, with the fuel pump right on the carb, but Taryls video, helped a lot. I just finished putting the carb back on. I don't want to jinx myself by saying it sounds pretty good. I know from past experience what can happen, so I'll just say it runs.

Now I have to wait for the block, and tin work for the 125 to get back. While I have the time, I will pull the fuel tank off this 175, clean it inside, and out, and run a temporary fuel line. I guess I don't have to pull it around to storage anymore.

 

P.S.  If you ever have occasion to rebuild one of these carbs, I would NOT pull the needle seat. Pulling it isn't hard. Getting a new one back in, is a I have another carb on order, just in case.

 

P.S.   P.S.  I also ordered a new starter. Today, this one turns over just fine. Go figure.

 

Edited May 11, 2021 by Gregor

[Gregor 4,847]

Someone welded that Indy style flaring to the running boards. I don't mean just little tack welds either. I mean SOLID !  The nerve of some peoples kids !  Never ceases to amaze me.

[Gregor 4,847]

8 hours ago, pfrederi said:

If the hydro is in good shape you will not be able to push it more than a very few feet before you have the tires sliding...

Yep!  I can push it about 2 feet, and that's it. Won't go anymore.

 

8 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Can that push / toe valve be freed up with something like heat or penetrating oil? Huge leverage? Anything like that?

I'm afraid to use heat. I don't know what's in there, but seems like a good place for a seal or O ring.  I can get at it now. I have it soaking, and walloped it a couple of times, but still won't move.

 

Cleaned up the tank, ran a temporary fuel line with 2 filters in it. Used a vise grip to hold the seat on, and went for a little joy ride. Tomorrow it will go into storage before I am tempted to tear it down. I have had 2 tractors tore down at once before. Not doing that again.

[ebinmaine 68,441]

Throw a little old fashioned Liquid Wrench or Kroil at it before parking it.