The next Wheel Horse? Maybe

[JoeM 7,874]

I know some have seen these before but I was intrigued by the video and the fact now there is a track kit for these Tuff-bilt machines.

 

 

[Maxwell-8 4,275]

Seems very usefull, I like the way the attachments "attach" in the middle of the tractor.

 

That metal "thing" on the weels, seems to really help out with traction.

 

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

An Allis Chalmers G rip off.  There is another brand that also took the AC G design to produce, their name escapes me.

[Achto 27,571]

 

Yep a copy of the Allis-Chalmers model G. Here is a pic of @WHX24 taking a cruise on our '49 Allis G. Handy design for gardening, I can see why it is still duplicated.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2021 by Achto

[Pullstart 62,867]

It’s the Baja Bug of tractors!

[WHX?? 48,815]

Absolute blast to drive I can tell you that. I was concerned about how light the front might feel like a nut roaster but not the case with the long wheel base. 

Any older tractor worth copying tho that would be it. Add todays power plants and some hydraulics... 

[WHX?? 48,815]

3 hours ago, Maxwell-8 said:

attachments "attach" in the middle of the tractor.

What's really nice about that is you don't have to twist around to see how things are working ...just look down. 

[JoeM 7,874]

“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”

 

Surprised they (Allis) never sold to many. I suppose the homemade / nonconventional look my not have helped??

 

I was looking at the homemade tractor web sites and these and the G's popped up. 

 

Three different companies produce modern versions. The new hydro / gear drive would make this thing super controllable. Not to mention I understand it lends itself well to electric conversion. That alone might just make it the investment of the future. 

[WHX?? 48,815]

You must have read this too Joe! 

Allis-Chalmers Model G - Wikipedia

 

Another good read..... 

 

The Allis-Chalmers Model G Rear-Engine Tractor - Farm Collector | Dedicated to the Preservation of Vintage Farm Equipment

Edited May 5, 2021 by WHX24

[JoeM 7,874]

33 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

You must have read this too

Yep

 

I have not known to many farmers that embrace change. That G was much different than those machines of that era. Timing means a lot. 

Looking at the new farmers market crowd, that is most popular here, that machine may be the nitch machine???

 

 

[seuadr 488]

i always thought those things were neat looking, but understand why they didn't catch on - @JoeM nailed - farmers don't like change. new fangled tech would have been a big expense and if it didn't work out you'd be stuck with it. i thought the electric conversion was kinda a neat footnote. i guess if you are looking at a 10hp motor it wouldn't take a lot of batteries to meet that need!

http://therootdownfarm.homestead.com/GConversion.html

at 2 grand for the conversion and who knows how much for the batteries though I'd be continuing to think it was cool and NOT owning one

[Achto 27,571]

2 hours ago, JoeM said:

I have not known to many farmers that embrace change. That G was much different than those machines of that era.

 

Allis tried a few things in that time period to promote the customer to buy every thing from them. If you bought a G you would have to buy all the implements for that tractor from them. Another item that Allis had was a small round hay baler. If you bought their baler, you would also want to by their attachment to load the bales on to a wagon, plus the elevator to get it into a hay mow.

 

IH did a similar thing with their 2 point "Fast-Hitch". This was a wonderful hitch that saved time when switching implements but it only worked with IH implements that were made for it.

 

Massey Harris had a PTO shaft that was different from all other brand tractors. Again this was a bump to try to get you to buy all your equipment from them.

[Stepney 2,325]

15 hours ago, T-Mo said:

An Allis Chalmers G rip off.  There is another brand that also took the AC G design to produce, their name escapes me.

Paige??
I think it was blue. I can picture the thing. 

[Stepney 2,325]

7 hours ago, Achto said:

 

Allis tried a few things in that time period to promote the customer to buy every thing from them. If you bought a G you would have to buy all the implements for that tractor from them. Another item that Allis had was a small round hay baler. If you bought their baler, you would also want to by their attachment to load the bales on to a wagon, plus the elevator to get it into a hay mow.

 

IH did a similar thing with their 2 point "Fast-Hitch". This was a wonderful hitch that saved time when switching implements but it only worked with IH implements that were made for it.

 

Massey Harris had a PTO shaft that was different from all other brand tractors. Again this was a bump to try to get you to buy all your equipment from them.

Don't forget the Farmall Cub and it's oddball reverse-rotation high speed PTO..

About the only implements that seem to have survived in any number are the mowers and garden tools.. but I've seen the post hole diggers, wood saws, and rototillers..

They easily could have done it like the Farmall A, but the Cub was yet another branchout..

A wonderful, spindly, 9hp branch out..

Still love mine though.

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

John Deere was developing a model similar to the Allis G, before Allis did.  JD had a few prototypes built, but it never went into production.

[wh500special 2,183]

On 5/5/2021 at 4:07 AM, T-Mo said:

An Allis Chalmers G rip off.  There is another brand that also took the AC G design to produce, their name escapes me.

John Blue G1000

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

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