steering

[thomas koehler 6]

Hi I have a D-250 that I recently bought. It starts and runs fine the hydraulics work fine as does the tiller but steering is very hard to work. I don't want to wreck it. any ideas on what might be wrong and anything I can do not the most mechanical guy around.

[Pollack Pete 2,273]

I had two of those D-250's.Steering on neither was anything to write home about.Got rid of both before I had a chance to check them out.BTW.I like your's.Especially with the front end loader. I'm sure others will be along soon to answer your steering questions.Nice looking cat too.

Edited May 1, 2021 by Pollack Pete

[thomas koehler 6]

thank you. 

 

[Maxwell-8 4,277]

1 hour ago, thomas koehler said:

D-250 that I recently bought. It starts and runs fine the hydraulics work fine as does the tiller but steering is very hard to work. I don't want to wreck it. any ideas on what might be wrong and anything I can do not the most mechanical guy around.

Those are notorious for their steeringboxes. Parts are pretty hard to find. Is the same machine as a Gutbrod 2500 here in Europe we only find the parts under gutbrod. 

 

There must be more forumtopics on this here.

[peter lena 8,634]

THOMAS , welcome to the site !  looking at you rig , the first thing i notice is lack of lubrication film at any movement point . think the easiest thing you can try , is to safely jack up the  front end , add jack stands and see how the steering works without a load on it . you could also very thoroughly grease every related fitting and lubricate all rusty linkage while suspended , that would give you an idea as to what you have . does the steering have a lubrication source ? is it empty and very dirty ? just a basic check over to neglected areas might be your issue , it would be a start anyway, others will chime in with more advise . hope its just a lack of lubrication issue , before and after trials will verify what is going on , good luck , pete

[pacer 3,173]

Thomas,

@peter lena has some very valid points there, I think there arent many of us just dont know what type steering mechanism it has. It may, or may not have a similar type that the 2-3 other larger WH's have (its called 'Ross' steering) which we are very familiar with -- and its not known for easy steering either.

Another unfortunate point is that these types of tractors, with a front loader attached the steering on this size - older ones - tractor really suffers. I have a Mitsubishi 4wd with FEL that is maybe a leetle bit larger that yours and the steering on it is a killer, then get a bucket of dirt and .... whoa!!

 

for what its worth --- (the newer types are now being called by an acronym - SCUT and CUT - small compact utility tractor and compact utility tractor, and they all have power steer) your D250 would prob be a "SCUT" and my Mitsu be a "CUT"

[peter lena 8,634]

pacer agree with you on the set up involved , its so over worked and stressed , its a wonder it works at all . pete

[pacer 3,173]

Had an afterthought that might be interesting --- My, probably 80's Mitsubishi 1650 4wd w/FEL has ...... a Ross box exactly like the D's, etc

[thomas koehler 6]

thanks for the advice. I did jack it up and it steers easily with no weight on it at the time I only saw the lube points at the wheels at that time. but I will try again and look for more points I finally found a ownersn manual. for it and hope that helps the repair manual wasn't much help for me. great info from you all thanks. I have all the money I have invested in this so need to get it back in shape.  Wish I could have found a ford 8n I could have aforded they are so easy ro work on and fund parts for even a non mechanic like me could work on them. thanks again