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oldlineman

Very nice from your picture looks like your front tires are towed out a little, may just be the picture. You might want to put a tape measure between back of tires and then front of tires. Front measurement should be slightly shorter about 1/4 in. or so. Very nice though welcome to THE FORM. Bob

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Jeff-C175
1 hour ago, oldlineman said:

looks like your front tires are towed out a little, may just be the picture

 

It does and I'll bet it's the camera angle.  I sent some pics of some framing work I had done to a friend and he came back asking if I owned and knew how to use a framing level and plumb bob!  ;)

 

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Cell phones have notoriously bad lenses on them!   :scared-eek:  P.S.  That pic above was done with 'panorama' on the phone camera... that wall is straight as can be considering the building is 100 years old!  Sure does look like a turret though!

 

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OutdoorEnvy
48 minutes ago, oldlineman said:

Very nice from your picture looks like your front tires are towed out a little, may just be the picture. You might want to put a tape measure between back of tires and then front of tires. Front measurement should be slightly shorter about 1/4 in. or so. Very nice though welcome to THE FORM. Bob

 

They are about the same.  the rear tires are the smaller narrow ones, 22x7.5-12.  they have tubes and are pretty cracked but getting the job done.  I'll probably upgrade to new ones and do 23x8.5-12 at some point.  The fronts are 15x6-6.  Was that the stock size?  Or were they a 5 inch wide tire?  The tractor tracks and drives pretty straight.  I've mowed a baseball practice field with it and don't have any complaints yet. 

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oliver2-44
1 hour ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

  I'll probably upgrade to new ones and do 23x8.5-12 at some point.  

Todays tires are undersize compared to the originals.  i would say especially the made in China one, but I just read Carsile are now made in China too.  I have the 23x9.5-12 on my 1985 312-8 and they seem just right. i run a 42" deck with no problem, and could probable fit a 48" deck.

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OutdoorEnvy
14 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said:

Todays tires are undersize compared to the originals.  i would say especially the made in China one, but I just read Carsile are now made in China too.  I have the 23x9.5-12 on my 1985 312-8 and they seem just right. i run a 42" deck with no problem, and could probable fit a 48" deck.

 

Thanks oliver, with the 9.5 wide tires is there room to run chains?

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oliver2-44

@OutdoorEnvy I have chains on 23x9.5-12 carslile turf tires on a C-160 and they don't hit. 

I've neve rput chains on the 312-8  

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OutdoorEnvy

So here is the rundown of what I've done to date:

 

Oil change

New spark plug

Rebuilt the carb and new gasket

New fuel lines and filter

Transmission service - I wouldn't be surprised if the gear oil was original, it was very tan and thick, like a caramel latte color and almost drained like syrup.  I drained it and put in a quart of 90w gear oil and quart of trans fluid then drove it for half an hour, drained it again and put in 2 quarts of 80w-90 gear oil.  I'll drain again in a year and see what it looks like.

Replaced trans shift dust-boot cover 

Head Gasket replaced and head cleaned of carbon

New Blades

 

I only took pics of the engine head when I cleaned it. 

 

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Next I think I'm going get some fresh tires on it.  The rears are definitely original.  They have tubes and hold air but they are really dry rotted and one sat for a while flat and has a pretty large crack.  The fronts are really worn and have tubes that look overfilled most of their life as they really bulge out in the middle.  

 

Here's a current pics as it is today

 

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Jeff-C175
37 minutes ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

here

 

Them headlights a little caddy wompus!  I think she's winking at me!

 

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OutdoorEnvy
4 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

Them headlights a little caddy wompus!  I think she's winking at me!

 

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LOL!  Yes it is!  The glass ridge part that holds it in place is broke.  It's on the list down the road... My son said it has a lazy eye....

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Jeff-C175
1 minute ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

 

LOL!  Yes it is!  The glass ridge part that holds it in place is broke.  It's on the list down the road... My son said it has a lazy eye....

 

Good opportunity to go LED !

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Pullstart
20 hours ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

 

LOL!  Yes it is!  The glass ridge part that holds it in place is broke.  It's on the list down the road... My son said it has a lazy eye....


So does my reaction :lol:

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OutdoorEnvy

Well I found some 12x7 rims with the right offset locally so put on some new turf tires all around.  I'll save the 12x5 rims for some 6-12 AG tires down the road and have 2 rear sets for whatever the occasion best suits.  So cleaned and then light sanded the rims and painted them all to match.  Tires were Hi-Run 15x6-6 in the front, rears were 23x9.5-12.  Great deal on the rears at Lowe's right now as the rear's were $34.99 and free shipping when I ordered two.

 

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All painted!

 

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Here are width comparisons.  original tire is a 22x7.5-12 on a 12x5 rim.  The new ones are 23x9.5-12 on a 12x7 rim.

 

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Now all 4 on the tractor

 

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Overall I really like the stance it has.  Looks like there's plenty of room for chains as well. 

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Jeff-C175
46 minutes ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

really like

 

Me too!  How much air you running?  

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tom2p

Envy - I have 4 ply Hi-Runs on the front of my 312 

 

installed them a couple years ago and so far so good 

 

inexpensive - around $40 shipped for the pair - and easy to mount ... they did not arrive folded or 'squished'

 

have Titan rear tires - they look very much like the Hi-Run tire

 

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I did run chains on the original Dico rear tires during the winter - no clearance issues I can recall ...  but not sure about the Titan rear tires that are slightly more 'square' in profile 

 

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OutdoorEnvy
1 hour ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

Me too!  How much air you running?  

 

14 fronts, 20 rear.

 

 Rears are 24 max.  Do folks run them at max?  Or scale them down low?

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Jeff-C175
8 minutes ago, OutdoorEnvy said:

 

14 fronts, 20 rear.

 

 Rears are 24 max.  Do folks run them at max?  Or scale them down low?

 

Oh no...  drop the rears down to like 8-10 ... 12 max.   I run my 23 x 8.50 at 10 .  You'll get a softer ride, less bouncing, and a flatter tread with less ballooning.

 

I wouldn't go more than 12 in the front either.  But they should be a little higher to make steering a tad easier.

 

Just looked at my 175 manual, it recommends 12 and 12 .

 

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