WHX?? 48,815 #26 Posted April 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, cafoose said: That will give me experience opening up a transmission Sounds like a sound plan since Ed hoards parts worse than Madge! DO NOT scrap those hubs tho they can be saved and given to the needy. Those older "star" ones are becoming scarce and can be saved. 4 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #27 Posted April 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, WHX24 said: DO NOT scrap those hubs tho they can be saved and given to the needy. Those older "star" ones are becoming scarce and can be saved. Don't worry I'm a hoarder 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,740 #28 Posted April 13, 2021 That transmission that WHX-??? showed was not from a hydro. I doubt you would ever see one like that on a hydro...too much oil involved there. Take some pictures of the process so as to help others. Thanks 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,118 #29 Posted April 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, WHX24 said: Sounds like a sound plan since Ed hoards parts worse than Madge! But Ed Dog sells them. Always good deals goin down at Ed's! 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #30 Posted April 14, 2021 I just got home with a 3 speed for parts from @Ed Kennell Ed! Now it's time to go to work I hope the hubs come off at least the hitch pin is out I removed the screws in the hubs and sprayed everything with kroil. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #31 Posted April 14, 2021 3 speed over a hydro? That can has a LOT more worms in it ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #32 Posted April 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Gregor said: 3 speed over a hydro? That can has a LOT more worms in it ! I'm not converting to a 3 speed I'm just using the differential in my hydro 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #33 Posted April 14, 2021 @stevasaurus @WHX24 I got the hubs off I soaked them overnight with kroil. The one slid right off and the other just a little coaxing with the puller I removed the case bolts and one of them needed the nut chiseled off because it rusted to almost nothing took about two minutes with a chisel and hammer I got the case separated but I can't pull it apart any further because something seems to be stopping it from going any further apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #34 Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) Take off input pulley You are trying to drag its shaft out. Also when you split trannies Short side down!!! Edited April 14, 2021 by pfrederi 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,740 #35 Posted April 14, 2021 Right...the input pulley and brake drum have to come off. I can't believe you would try to open that with those parts still on there. That stuff is attached to everything inside. WOW !!! Keep the shallow side down when you open it. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,577 #36 Posted April 14, 2021 All pulleys have to be removed to split the cases 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #37 Posted April 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: Right...the input pulley and brake drum have to come off. I can't believe you would try to open that with those parts still on there. That stuff is attached to everything inside. WOW !!! Keep the shallow side down when you open it. First time opening one up 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,740 #38 Posted April 14, 2021 It's OK...it's just that I would have never thought anyone would try to do that. I'll have to add..."Be sure to take off hubs, input pulley, brake drum & hitch pin before trying to open transmission" to my list of things to tell people. At least you thought to ask before you ruined things inside. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #39 Posted April 14, 2021 Manuals are handy things to read.... 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #40 Posted April 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: Keep the shallow side down when you open it. I didn't have my short side down. Guess there are exceptions to every rule. But then mine was hydro. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #41 Posted April 14, 2021 On the good side glad to see you are using a bearing collar behind the hub. Yep yer not the first one to do something stupid. One thing I always do now is get one side off ... the easy one.... and then disassemble the diff while still in the case and take the other side to a press. 'Cause of idiots like me these hubs getting scarce. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #42 Posted April 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gregor said: I didn't have my short side down. Guess there are exceptions to every rule. But then mine was hydro. Lots less things to fall out of the inside of a hyro tranny than a gear drive.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #43 Posted April 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Manuals are handy things to read.... Guys don't read instructions 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #44 Posted April 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, WHX24 said: 'Cause of idiots like me these hubs getting scarce I now have two extra hubs that need key-ways fixed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,355 #45 Posted April 14, 2021 Success! I got it apart! No damage to anything! I tried to put the case back together to hold the gears inside but I'm having a hard time lining the shafts with the bearings in the case now I need to get the hydro removed and fixed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,740 #46 Posted April 14, 2021 If I am seeing ball bearings in that differential in the 2nd to the last picture, you may need another transmission to fix what is wrong with yours. Just not sure what I am looking at in that picture. You are going to take the differential apart...right. Is that a ball bearing on that 11/44 toothed gear??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,118 #47 Posted April 14, 2021 A fine thread push bolt and 7/16" HD threaded rod or screws would eliminate a lot of potential breakage when pulling a hub that way. I made this puller and haven't broken one yet! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #48 Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, stevasaurus said: If I am seeing ball bearings in that differential in the 2nd to the last picture, you may need another transmission to fix what is wrong with yours. Just not sure what I am looking at in that picture. You are going to take the differential apart...right. Is that a ball bearing on that 11/44 toothed gear??? Steve What kind of differential is that 4 pinion or bevel gear??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,846 #49 Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Is that a ball bearing on that 11/44 toothed gear??? I'm guessing maybe 6 people know what an 11/44 gear is. I aint afraid to let my stupid out., 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
