Hang on... is this the original engine?

[krystolo 504]

Checking over Rosie tonight and I see that the engine attachments don’t quite match up. Suspect a swap at some point in her life. Opinions? 

[krystolo 504]

[krystolo 504]

[cschannuth 3,816]

There should be a J bolt through there holding it down to the frame.

[krystolo 504]

11 minutes ago, cschannuth said:

There should be a J bolt through there holding it down to the frame.

Should there be J bolts all around, or just on one side?

Here’s the other side. 

[Ed Kennell 38,227]

There should be two  bolts inside the right frame rail  into two tapped holes in the pan.

[cschannuth 3,816]

1 hour ago, krystolo said:

Should there be J bolts all around, or just on one side?

Here’s the other side. 

On my charger 12 they used two J bolts on the side that overhangs the frame and two regular bolts on the other side. I didn’t even think about the fact that they would put a bolt up through the bottom of the frame into a threaded hole in the bottom of the engine but that makes sense.

[ebinmaine 67,619]

2 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

There should be two  bolts inside the right frame rail  into two tapped holes in the pan.

 

 

[OldWorkHorse 3,045]

9 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

Learned that the hard way! Always thought just 2 bolts held the engines on my horses... till I tried winching a engine off after removing the 2 bolts you can see and the frame still lifting with the motor! That's how I found the 2 hidden bolts! 

Edited April 2, 2021 by OldWorkHorse

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,046]

The engine has the correct spec number and Kohler built it in 1977.

The tractor was scheduled to be built 008165 - Build date 1977 7066 March 07 Monday

 

Garry

[Tuneup 1,433]

I didn't notice that offset with the '77 120 until I went to reinstall the engine and scratched my head for a while. It doesn't fit any other way. Call it a big block and be happy with it

[953 nut 55,320]

8 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

There should be two  bolts inside the right frame rail  into two tapped holes in the pan.

This is what the oil pan looks like from below.

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

10 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

This is what the oil pan looks like from below.

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

I did the same thing when I got my first horse. It looked a little odd because I thought once It wasnt bolted down. I have even drilled holes now in oil pans and threaded the holes just for this purpose.

[krystolo 504]

2 hours ago, Tuneup said:

I didn't notice that offset with the '77 120 until I went to reinstall the engine and scratched my head for a while. It doesn't fit any other way. Call it a big block and be happy with it

HAHA!  I just thought it was odd that it looks like it doesn't belong there. 

I'm thrilled with her! Just love her to pieces.  Well, hopefully not to pieces. LOL

[ebinmaine 67,619]

Just now, krystolo said:

 

I'm thrilled with her! Just love her to pieces.  Well, hopefully not to pieces. LOL

It's okay if you love it to pieces as long as you put most of them back...

[krystolo 504]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

It's okay if you love it to pieces as long as you put most of them back...

My skills, are still... er... "developing" in that area, so big pieces for now.  Easy pieces.  Like a toddler puzzle.

[ebinmaine 67,619]

Just now, krystolo said:

My skills, are still... er... "developing" in that area, so big pieces for now.  Easy pieces.  Like a toddler puzzle.

No worries. We all start somewhere.

[clueless 3,005]

Looks to me like Rosie still got her original equipment .

 

[stevasaurus 22,764]

This Case is solved.    

[Mikey the Monkey 697]

 @krystoloLooks like maybe you should put in a want ad for the top engine tin to help with keeping the head cool. Unless you just temporarily removed it.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Mikey the Monkey

[krystolo 504]

20 minutes ago, Mikey the Monkey said:

 @krystoloLooks like maybe you should put in a want ad for the top engine tin to help with keeping the head cool. Unless you just temporarily removed it.

Dumb question... what is that?

 

ohhh! Is see! A little cap over the fins.  So that helps keep it cool? 

Edited April 2, 2021 by krystolo

[ebinmaine 67,619]

15 hours ago, krystolo said:

 

 

6 minutes ago, krystolo said:

Dumb question... what is that?

 

ohhh! Is see! A little cap over the fins.  So that helps keep it cool? 

 

 

The whole top of the engine in the picture just above this should be covered with a piece of sheet metal

 

If you don't have one on there it would be a great idea to procure one ASAP from either one of our members or a to z in Pennsylvania

 

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

48 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

This Case is solved.    

Wow she looks like one of the munsters!

 

[WHX?? 48,828]

Some one swapped the head out. It should have what we call a high boss head meaning where the head bolts are then even with the top of the fins. So the head tin goes  like this. Last pics is a low boss head with all sorts of PO goofyness goin on. 

 

Edited April 2, 2021 by WHX24