Carburetor

[JAinVA 4,619]

I am looking for insight from you guys. I have bought a couple of aftermarket carbs for my Kohler m12s. The originals were not rebuildable. I have not had much luck and am now looking at the units from I save tractors Any comments and opinions are welcome. Thanks in advance

[elcamino/wheelhorse 9,326]

I have bought 2 carbs from I save Tractors. One for a 310 and one for a 416 . Both worked great . No problems.

[JAinVA 4,619]

Thanks Jim!  That's what I needed to know.

[ebinmaine 67,695]

I haven't bought anything from Norman yet but he seems like a decent guy. 

I've heard concerns he may have grown to big too fast and can't offer the time he once did to customers. 

 

Far as carbs go I only have experience with older K Series. 

I've had several junk aftermarket carbs on 12 to 16 HP engines. 

I got one for a K341 specifically sorted out on the site for the larger engines. When I got it I tried at least 3 times to get it going. Failed for different reasons. 

 

I finally got a used one from Lincoln at A to Z tractor and rebuilt that. 

Problem free since. 

 

I discovered that the aftermarket carb was a smaller bore than original by a long shot. 

Double check that Norman. 

 

 

I won't be buying another cheap carb. 

 

Again..... All K Series experiences.  

[Gregor 4,846]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

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I've heard concerns he may have grown to big too fast and can't offer the time he once did to customers. 

I will agree with that.

That being said, I have bought several China carbs from him, and they all were adequate

Like @ebinmainesaid, if you can find a decent re-buldable carb. Thats the way to go.

[Pullstart 62,922]

I haven’t gotten a carb from isavetractors but I have received a few error free and on time orders from him just fine.  I say he’s a reputable parts source 

[Ed Kennell 38,249]

I used one of his on a K.   It worked great right out of the box.

[peter lena 8,647]

JAINVA,  bought a carb from I SAVE TRACTORS , have not touched it , since starting it up ! ,really no adjustments needed and continues to run without any issues, been a couple of years . regularly use  STA -BIL  in all my fuel with instant starts . pete

[pfrederi 17,741]

I used one of his on a K-341 never could get it to run right.  Rebuilt the old one instead.

[ebinmaine 67,695]

Just now, pfrederi said:

I used one of his on a K-341 never could get it to run right.  Rebuilt the old one instead.

Just out of curiosity did you ever happen to check the bore size on that carb?

[pfrederi 17,741]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

Just out of curiosity did you ever happen to check the bore size on that carb?

No

[Gregor 4,846]

If I have nothing, I have carburetors. I am assuming by bore, you mean the size of the throat. If thats not right, well, I'm a little slow ya know.

All of the new carbs are from isvetractors. Who I believe is still a good place to do business with.

 

Carb on the left (Kohler) measures,

1.20". The 2 on the right, 1.17"  These were ordered for a K321.

 

These carbs are for a K181. Carb on left, (Kohler, as far as I know) .83".   Carb on right, .82"

 

[ebinmaine 67,695]

1 minute ago, Gregor said:

If I have nothing, I have carburetors. I am assuming by bore, you mean the size of the throat. If thats not right, well, I'm a little slow ya know.

All of the new carbs are from isvetractors. Who I believe is still a good place to do business with.

 

Carb on the left (Kohler) measures,

1.20". The 2 on the right, 1.17"  These were ordered for a K321.

 

These carbs are for a K181. Carb on left, (Kohler, as far as I know) .83".   Carb on right, .82"

 

IMHO those sizes are close enough.

 

I don't remember the sizes or the differences but when I say it's substantial it was probably close to 1/4" smaller in throat diameter.

I would have felt reasonable about putting it on a 10 horse. Possibly a 12. That would have been a stretch.

 

[Howie 888]

It's just a restrictor plate! 

[Gregor 4,846]

13 minutes ago, Howie said:

It's just a restrictor plate! 

Good for 1 acre lawns and larger.

[Mirage276 9]

I just got a #30 from isavetractors for my K341 and everything seems fine, ran well and the engine idled better than it ever has before. I was trying to rebuild/clean mine but snapped 3 of the 4 screws on the throttle/choke shafts and needed something quick so I can get to mowing.  Both the stock throttle and choke blades fit into the replacement so if its sized differently its marginal on the carb I got, but I did not measure the bores.

[ebinmaine 67,695]

5 minutes ago, Mirage276 said:

I just got a #30 from isavetractors for my K341 and everything seems fine, ran well and the engine idled better than it ever has before. I was trying to rebuild/clean mine but snapped 3 of the 4 screws on the throttle/choke shafts and needed something quick so I can get to mowing.  Both the stock throttle and choke blades fit into the replacement so if its sized differently its marginal on the carb I got, but I did not measure the bores.

If they sold you a clearly marked #30 it should be the same. 

 

 

Did you keep the old body?

 

You probably know it by now.... Those screws are either locktite held in, staked in, or both. They need to be ground very carefully to be removed. 

 

Do you have plans for the old carb now?

 

[Mirage276 9]

12 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

If they sold you a clearly marked #30 it should be the same. 

 

 

Did you keep the old body?

 

You probably know it by now.... Those screws are either locktite held in, staked in, or both. They need to be ground very carefully to be removed. 

 

Do you have plans for the old carb now?

 

Yea learned that the hard way, never torn down a carb before. Have dealt with stubborn throttle body screws before but I wasn't even thinking about it when I jumped in. Used a hacksaw blade to finish them off and get it all apart.

 

I will probably finish rebuilding it and keep it as a spare if I can get ahold of some shafts or get someone to drill them out for me.

[ebinmaine 67,695]

39 minutes ago, Mirage276 said:

Yea learned that the hard way, never torn down a carb before. Have dealt with stubborn throttle body screws before but I wasn't even thinking about it when I jumped in. Used a hacksaw blade to finish them off and get it all apart.

 

I will probably finish rebuilding it and keep it as a spare if I can get ahold of some shafts or get someone to drill them out for me.

Post a pic or two of what you have. I've used a dremel type tool to get them out.

[Gregor 4,846]

51 minutes ago, Mirage276 said:

I will probably finish rebuilding it and keep it as a spare if I can get ahold of some shafts or get someone to drill them out for me.

FYI  The shafts from the carb you jsut bought will fit, if you would rather have the old carb.

[haydendavid380 759]

I have one on a K181. Works fine.