Horse storage (shed / work shop)

[Mike in NC 341]

Here is my storage and work shop. The workshop is an 18 X 20 carport that I added front and rear walls to. Storage is an 8' X 40' X 9'6" shipping container. 

 

 

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

I have a 24 x 24 attached garage that's dedicated to the wife's car and house junk...so no pics.

My shop is a 20 x 20 double carport that I converted to 8 ft walls.

I built the foundation walls, filled with pit gravel, and had a concrete man do the floor with slick finish.

It has a 9 x 7 roll up door, 36 inch entry door, 100 amp service, 2 windows, heat and air, attic storage, epoxy floor, 12 x 20 concrete pad out front. Storage shed attached to back.

My storage shed is 16 x 12, sitting on 9 - 2 ft x 2 ft concrete pillars.

It is wired with 20 amp service for 4 LED shop lights and 6 receptacles for battery tenders, or what not.

[WHX?? 48,828]

That is slicker than snot on a door knob Newbie  ....Gives me some ideas. Not a big fan of horizontal steel but get why it's done. 

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

6 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

That is slicker than snot on a door knob Newbie  ....Gives me some ideas. Not a big fan of horizontal steel but get why it's done. 

You can go vertical its just counter of your horses .

[Pollack Pete 2,273]

25 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

  Not a big fan of horizontal steel but get why it's done. 

Why don't you like horizontal steel panels?I've got 2 buildings here that use horizontal.Seem to do what a building is intended to do.Although I DO like the looks of vertical much better.Neither method seems to leak or have any other problems.Got another 44 ft by 21 ft metal building ordered for Spring construction.That one will be horizontal also.My early 90"s vintage 116 ft  by 32 ft building is vertical tin.Just wondering.

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

36 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

Not a big fan of horizontal steel but get why it's done. 

I would prefer vertical on the roof panels...I noticed that with the "v's" in the metal panels running horizontal, water may run under the front and back edges, and run inside the walls. 

I remedied this by caulking along where the roof panels met the outside walls.

One other thing is 1 or 2 of the screws in the roof want to leak, even though I bought new screws with rubber washers.

I fixed that by putting aluminum roof coating on the roof.

I also added the awning across the front to keep the rain from splashing on my doors and blowing in so bad...

[Pollack Pete 2,273]

1 hour ago, Horse Newbie said:

I would prefer vertical on the roof panels...I noticed that with the "v's" in the metal panels running horizontal, water may run under the front and back edges, and run inside the walls. 

I remedied this by caulking along where the roof panels met the outside walls.

One other thing is 1 or 2 of the screws in the roof want to leak, even though I bought new screws with rubber washers.

I fixed that by putting aluminum roof coating on the roof.

I also added the awning across the front to keep the rain from splashing on my doors and blowing in so bad...

I forgot to mention.........all my buildings here have vertical installed roof panels.Rain and snow would have a hard time flowing up and over the ridges in the tin.

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

6 minutes ago, Pollack Pete said:

I forgot to mention.........all my buildings here have vertical installed roof panels.Rain and snow would have a hard time flowing up and over the ridges in the tin.

Correct...

And with a light to medium rain, the water runs off the front and back mainly with horizontal panels...the main reason I added the awning on front.

Now I can have the roll up door open with rain...

[lynnmor 7,308]

Vertical siding is kind of self cleaning as well, rain just flushes debris off, horizontal not so much.

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

2 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

Vertical siding is kind of self cleaning as well, rain just flushes debris off, horizontal not so much.

That is true...

Part of the reason I rebuilt the carport as a building, going back horizontal, was an economics factor...if I had went vertical, even though I could have used most of the original material, I still would have had considerable waste and had to purchase more new panels.

I definitely considered vertical, but by going back horizontal, I only had to buy material for the front and back...

[lynnmor 7,308]

2 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said:

That is true...

Part of the reason I rebuilt the carport as a building, going back horizontal, was an economics factor...if I had went vertical, even though I could have used most of the original material, I still would have had considerable waste and had to purchase more new panels.

I definitely considered vertical, but by going back horizontal, I only had to buy material for the front and back...

Not a criticism of your work, I just mentioned that for those considering new construction, especially if there is a lot of debris from trees.  I have the material installed vertically covering my firewood area, (16' x 16') and have only a 2" roof pitch, that proved to be not enough to shed the larch debris.

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

20 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

Not a criticism of your work, I just mentioned that for those considering new construction, especially if there is a lot of debris from trees.  I have the material installed vertically covering my firewood area, (16' x 16') and have only a 2" roof pitch, that proved to be not enough to shed the larch debris.

I did not take it as criticism at all...I was just sharing information so that others considering starting a building project could evaluate their plans on information/ pros and cons, that they get here...

And besides, if someone offends me, I need to look at myself first, to see why I may have been offended...

All of us would probably take different routes to the same destination, but who, if any, would be able to say the other took the wrong way ?

We live and learn...

The thought of you being critical never entered my mind Lynnmor.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Horse Newbie

[Horse Newbie 7,075]

@lynnmor

 

I would much rather a friend tell me "Do this", instead of "You should have done this".

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

The only reason I went the horizontal was budget constraints at the time, I needed a building put up and that's what I could afford hence no doors, original plan was vertical until the county shut me down on my first building permit request as the new building codes increased my load bearing requirements increased the material cost, so beef up frame work and go to horizontal panels put me back in budget.  If we ever get to the point of affording a real garage it will be concrete floor and vertical panelled, doors and electricity ect.

[seuadr 488]

man, that is a nice setup!

 

i am considering a shipping container for property we are building on - for our needs and our budget, we are probably NOT going to be able to have a shop space for me right away - a shipping container would at least keep my equipment out of the weather. I've got a few 4 wheel tractors, a couple 2 wheel tractors and a crap top of other random equipment that i wanna keep safe and secure.

 

how was the process of getting it? they make it sound pretty painless.

[ohiofarmer 3,276]

As a contractor semi retired who has built both houses and barns, please bear with me on my take of things. Everyone's situation is different because of building codes or what you want or need your hobby barn to look like or whether it is located on a farm or city lot, but generally.......

 

 For a lower cost per foot, long and skinny are no match for wider. A square building does not have as many square feet of sidewall, but going wider has a limit economically --- makes necessary using heavier roof components for the span covered. For smaller buildings, you can figure this sweet spot out pretty easily, but for larger, the ones you see quoted in farm magazines can shed some light.. When I built my own shop, I built my own wood trusses to the maximum width a 2x4 truss with one piece for the top rafter would span, and for me, it was 28 feet. i added a 15 foot lean to to one side of the building. Overall it is 80 feet long with a 32x28 garage bay , and a 48x28 raised wood floor shop with insulated sides and ceiling.   The shop now has too many project motorcycles and wheel horses bought for cheap, but now i need to get realistic on the size of herds of both tractors and bikes.

 

 if I were building a little tractor storage building today, with the exploding cost of framing lumber and plywood, I might consider two shipping containers and possibly a third across one end because of the strength and simplicity of setting them up. they would be spaced apart with a decent work area in the center that only requires a slab and a heavy duty overhead door would be the access point. There would be a steel framed commercial access door like you would see on a warehouse at a well lit location. Even the end doors on the containers

would be secured with extra internal locks.also with mid entry points accessible from the inside of the building. I would be thinking that a 32 to forty foot truss is very common and common gives one a competetive price. stick built rafters may even be an option depending on price vs construction time

 

  When you think about it, there is a three sided ring of steel that can have decorative siding applied later, and the whole thing would be an excellent wind break. The containers are wide enough for shelving on both sides and a walk way, or set up any other way to store tractors.  The center of the building could even house a heated room with an insulated wood floor and walls to any standard you might like.Of course those outside steel walls will get hot and cold easily, but that can be handled with foam insulation. With some concerned about a bug out shelter for a family, you could add some provision to ride out a human civil disturbance if needed.

 

 It was fun for me to build this project in my head. After some of the stuff i have seen on those prepper channels, it seem that something with everyday application plus security may appeal to some

 

Edited March 5, 2021 by ohiofarmer

[19richie66 17,508]

6 hours ago, seuadr said:

man, that is a nice setup!

 

i am considering a shipping container for property we are building on - for our needs and our budget, we are probably NOT going to be able to have a shop space for me right away - a shipping container would at least keep my equipment out of the weather. I've got a few 4 wheel tractors, a couple 2 wheel tractors and a crap top of other random equipment that i wanna keep safe and secure.

 

how was the process of getting it? they make it sound pretty painless.

The guy I bought my containers from back them right into place and slid them off his trailer. Just depends on how much room you have around where you put it as to how hard it is to get it there. I plan on putting shelves in the back of mine, 8’ wide by 2’ deep. Mine are high cubes with 9’6” ceilings. I will go 5’ high with first shelf and then 7’ or 8’ high with the second. Plenty of parts storage with those and open under the bottom for larger items you don’t need to get to all the time. Take it from me.... if there is something you think you may need or want, don’t put it in the back 

Lowes sells 1/2” and 3/4” foam insulation board that can be glued to the sides and ceiling for better temperature control. I cut out the factory vents and installed larger screens and covers. They can be bought but I like making things.

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

@WHX24, Jim a couple more for you to drool over...

[Handy Don 12,237]

On 3/4/2021 at 7:39 PM, 19richie66 said:

The guy I bought my containers from back them right into place and slid them off his trailer. Just depends on how much room you have around where you put it as to how hard it is to get it there.

Don't look now, but containers are a hot commodity at the moment. The only ones readily available are no longer usable for shipping due to damage. The damage may not affect your planned use, but take care to ask questions!

[Pollack Pete 2,273]

10 hours ago, WVHillbilly520H said:

@WHX24, Jim a couple more for you to drool over...

VERY similar to the one I have on order to be delivered and built when the snow goes away.Mine will have the entire front open.The 3 other walls will be fully enclosed.Mine will be 44 ft long,21 ft wide.Center area 12 feet high with the 9 ft high lean tos.Only going to use it for equipment storage.No electric.Crusher run floor.Delivered and built for just over 10 grand.

[19richie66 17,508]

I got my containers last year as I needed instant storage and had no time or way to build anything. I must say, the guy I delt with picked me out two nice ones. Couple of dents but no leaks. Little bit of rust at the door hinges but it is all minor. Great for my plans.

Edited March 6, 2021 by 19richie66

[Wheel Horse 3D 3,795]

Definately go with @ebinmaine go x 3! When we installed the new building a year ago all was good...Mrs has since claimed the shed and carport closer to the house, first bay is wheel horse, last bay is side by side and mini bikes, and have added a 10x20 portable garage(white canvas/tarp type thing) that serves as lumber storage and place to get the smaller equipment under cover, (post hole digger, chipper, etc.)

[MikMacMike 479]

Wow all these ever so excellent shops. I find it so cool how everyone has such wicked Ideas too. Here is an older shop pic, Ill try to put a newer one soon. As you can see it was miller time LOL.

[Wheel Horse 3D 3,795]

On 3/2/2021 at 12:27 PM, WVHillbilly520H said:

The only reason I went the horizontal was budget constraints at the time, I needed a building put up and that's what I could afford hence no doors, original plan was vertical until the county shut me down on my first building permit request as the new building codes increased my load bearing requirements increased the material cost, so beef up frame work and go to horizontal panels put me back in budget.  If we ever get to the point of affording a real garage it will be concrete floor and vertical panelled, doors and electricity ect.

With mine I went with the horizontal side panels and the vertical roof to balance the costs.

[pfrederi 17,741]

Go Big!!!   30x84 and not big enough,  More WHs and toys stored in the barn down the hill and 7 more in the wooden shed up the hill.