Oldskool 6,644 #26 Posted February 18, 2021 I finally have the shift forks out. Someone has been in here before me. Left to right What's left of the detent ball/spring cap. A boogered detent spring A misc. woodruff key found inside Last but not least 1 gear tooth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #27 Posted February 18, 2021 I have looked on Lowell's parts page. I also looked at the rebuild videos on here. Is there not a seal or o-ring for the high/low shift lever? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,565 #28 Posted February 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, Oldskool said: I have looked on Lowell's parts page. I also looked at the rebuild videos on here. Is there not a seal or o-ring for the high/low shift lever? No sir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,565 #29 Posted February 18, 2021 You figure out what you need for parts and let me know. I probably even got the seals and gasket for you. Shift boot. I bought all that stuff in bulk at one point so I'll give you a screaming deal on them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #30 Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: You figure out what you need for parts and let me know. I probably even got the seals and gasket for you. Shift boot. I bought all that stuff in bulk at one point so I'll give you a screaming deal on them. I need both outer bearings,gasket, seals,shift boot a detent spring and 1 detent ball. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,565 #31 Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Oldskool said: I need both outer bearings,gasket, seals,shift boot a detent spring and 1 detent ball. I've got everything but the two outside bearings for sure. Let me double check in the next day or two and I'll PM you the info. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #32 Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I've got everything but the two outside bearings for sure. Let me double check in the next day or two and I'll PM you the info. Great. Thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #33 Posted February 18, 2021 Just grabbed this today off a Toro.I think it was a 265. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,233 #34 Posted February 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Oldskool said: Just grabbed this today off a Toro.I think it was a 265. Is that a giant weld atop the axle pivot or just a lot of rust & gunk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #35 Posted February 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Is that a giant weld atop the axle pivot or just a lot of rust & gunk? That is alot of grease gunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,763 #36 Posted February 18, 2021 The reason you couldn't shift the transmission is because without one of the détente balls the spring was getting stuck between the spring hole and the shift rail. Those balls are 1/4" ball bearings and are sold at hardware stores like ACE separately. You can also re-bend that spring and it should be OK. Do you have the stop that goes inside that spring? The access hole in the trans case can be plugged with a dab of caulk when you are done closing the trans. It should not be threaded and have a set screw. You can clean out the whole tunnel for the de'tente stuff with a 1/4" drill bit. You can probably do it by hand. See the stop below the spring in picture. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #37 Posted February 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: The reason you couldn't shift the transmission is because without one of the détente balls the spring was getting stuck between the spring hole and the shift rail. Those balls are 1/4" ball bearings and are sold at hardware stores like ACE separately. You can also re-bend that spring and it should be OK. Do you have the stop that goes inside that spring? The access hole in the trans case can be plugged with a dab of caulk when you are done closing the trans. It should not be threaded and have a set screw. You can clean out the whole tunnel for the de'tente stuff with a 1/4" drill bit. You can probably do it by hand. See the stop below the spring in picture. I do not have the stop. This hole doesnt seen to be threaded. I assume I can just go ahead and thread it and make a stop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,763 #38 Posted February 18, 2021 DO NOT thread the hole...just a finger of caulk is good to seal. That hole is just for access, the stop has nothing to do with it. The stop goes into the spring...keeps it straight. If you are going to make one, it is about the diameter of a 6 penny finishing nail and it needs to be 7/8" long. Your shifter will not work without one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,565 #39 Posted February 18, 2021 I'll bet I've got one or two of those stops as well Mike. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #40 Posted February 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: DO NOT thread the hole...just a finger of caulk is good to seal. That hole is just for access, the stop has nothing to do with it. The stop goes into the spring...keeps it straight. If you are going to make one, it is about the diameter of a 6 penny finishing nail and it needs to be 7/8" long. Your shifter will not work without one. It had a metal plug in it. That doesnt have to be in there to hold anything in place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #41 Posted February 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I'll bet I've got one or two of those stops as well Mike. Sweet! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,763 #42 Posted February 18, 2021 No...the shift rails hold everything in place. The face of your trans bolts to the plate on your frame. You do not want anything sticking out...the is why the caulk. Eric, he needs the 7/8" stop. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #43 Posted February 19, 2021 I think today may be frame day. I may have some questions as the day goes on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #44 Posted February 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Oldskool said: I think today may be frame day. I may have some questions as the day goes on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #45 Posted February 19, 2021 While I have this transmission apart what can be done for upgrades to make it as bullet proof as possible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,565 #46 Posted February 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Oldskool said: While I have this transmission apart what can be done for upgrades to make it as bullet proof as possible. As long as all the bearings and the surfaces that they ride on are in good condition you'd really be hard-pressed to improve on that design. Pay particular attention to the input shaft and it's bearing set because they will be spinning the fastest. These 8-speed 8 pinion uni drives are TOUGH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #47 Posted February 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: As long as all the bearings and the surfaces that they ride on are in good condition you'd really be hard-pressed to improve on that design. Pay particular attention to the input shaft and it's bearing set because they will be spinning the fastest. These 8-speed 8 pinion uni drives are TOUGH. How do I know for sure it's an 8 pinion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,565 #48 Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Oldskool said: How do I know for sure it's an 8 pinion? Rip apart the differential which you should do anyway to clean it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #49 Posted February 19, 2021 That I will. So with this pic you will see the pencil. I assumed that is pointing to a pinion? Therefore I was thinking this is a 4 pinion? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,565 #50 Posted February 19, 2021 You are correct that that's a pinion. If the other 4 holes are empty you have a 4 pinion. @stevasaurus shouldn't this have 8? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
