6-0202 Snow Thrower on "modern" tractors

[artietube 12]

Hi all,

 

I'm new here and am hoping I'm not asking a redundant question.  I've hunted around quite a bit but don't find the answer I need.

 

I am a new owner of a Toro/Wheelhorse 312-h.  5112-keo (if memory serves). It's from around 1992.  With it is a Wheel Horse 6-0202 snow thrower.  When I attach it to the tractor (with the belt on the outer spindle) the belt rubs against the top of the frame (where the axle would be).  It seems wrong to me and I don't know if it's because the snow thrower is so old that it's not 100% compatible or perhaps that's the way it's supposed to be.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Thanks

[squonk 41,164]

How bout a pic or 2?

[artietube 12]

Thanks for the speedy response!  I will take a pic or two when I get home from work and post them asap.

 

Thank you.

[pfrederi 17,741]

Here is manual for 6-0202.  it is a tach matic compatible blower so it should fit your tractor .  Do you have the idler pulleys hooked correctly.  Picture in manual is hard to see it should look like my pictures

 

 

 

[JCM 9,202]

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[Handy Don 12,244]

Welcome @artietubeand good luck!

[squonk 41,164]

Thinking maybe a too long of a belt may cause the V idler pulley to hit the axle.

 

[Achto 27,622]

[SylvanLakeWH 25,606]

[Pullstart 62,922]

 We love pictures!

[artietube 12]

Wow, thank you all for the warm welcome & the info.

 

Here are a couple pics.  Hopefully they explain the situation better.  For all I know it's perfectly fine but...

 

These seem like great yard tractors with an obvious long history.

 

FTR, I purchased a NOS belt recently.  Came in yesterday & I'll be installing it this weekend.

 

Thanks again

Edited February 17, 2021 by artietube

[Achto 27,622]

I'm not sure but I think your issue may be shown by comparing these two pics.

 

Yours

15 minutes ago, artietube said:

 

 

The one that Squonk posted.

16 hours ago, squonk said:

 

Notice the different position of the idle/tension pulleys? 

Edited February 17, 2021 by Achto

[artietube 12]

Ahhh, I see that now!  So simple.  I'll reroute the new belt the correct way.  I'm glad it's something simple.

 

Thanks a million!!!

[Pullstart 62,922]

See... pictures tell such a huge story!

[1995 520H+96+97 937]

The belt also looks to be wrong. Its is sitting to deep in the pto and driven pulley.

[artietube 12]

It could be a wrong belt for sure.  I ordered a replacement based on the diagram in the manual so I'm pretty sure when I get the new one on it'll help the situation.

 

Always something to learn!

[1995 520H+96+97 937]

You may have to loosen and/or remove the 3 bolts for the bearing behind the driven pulley, to install the new belt.

Is the loop touching the pto bell?

[artietube 12]

51 minutes ago, 1995 520H+96+97 said:

You may have to loosen and/or remove the 3 bolts for the bearing behind the driven pulley, to install the new belt.

Is the loop touching the pto bell?

 

Thanks for that insight regarding the three bolts. I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean by the loop touching the pto bell. Apologies.

[artietube 12]

If I may ask one other question... there's a grease fitting on the auger shaft which seems to take endless grease. Is it filling up the entire shaft?

 

Any info is much appreciated. 

[Handy Don 12,244]

1 hour ago, artietube said:

 

Thanks for that insight regarding the three bolts. I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean by the loop touching the pto bell. Apologies.

I think the PTO "bell" being referred to is the arched metal rod mounted to the motor and frame that, when rotated, presses the PTO pulley against the motor to engage the PTO. Belts should never rub against it.

 

When you re-route your new correctly-sized belt onto the correct sides of the idler/tensioner it should keep the belt from rubbing on stuff.

 

No experience with blowers so it'll be for someone else to respond to the auger/grease question!

Edited February 17, 2021 by Handy Don

[Tractorhead 9,064]

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[artietube 12]

2 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I think the PTO "bell" being referred to is the arched metal rod mounted to the motor and frame that, when rotated, presses the PTO pulley against the motor to engage the PTO. Belts should never rub against it.

 

When you re-route your new correctly-sized belt onto the correct sides of the idler/tensioner it should keep the belt from rubbing on stuff.

 

No experience with blowers so it'll be for someone else to respond to the auger/grease question!

 

Ah, ok, I get it now.  That makes sense.  The belt is definitely not rubbing against the bell.  The PTO seems to engage very well and the thrower stops as soon as it hits a load.  Which leads me to believe that the wrong belt orientation plus the idea that the belt is wrong to begin with are my issues.  I was wondering why there seemed to be no load on the clutch spring... duh.

 

As far as the grease situation goes I just want to not mess anything up as I'm a newb to all this equipment.

 

Thanks again to all!!

[1995 520H+96+97 937]

The four bearings on the blower I never grease now, replace every 2 seasons.

The bell is the pto, the part the belt is on. It looks like a bell when it is on the bench.

The loop is the black vertical part. Looks like paint is missing on the bell from the loop rubbing.

[artietube 12]

19 hours ago, 1995 520H+96+97 said:

The four bearings on the blower I never grease now, replace every 2 seasons.

The bell is the pto, the part the belt is on. It looks like a bell when it is on the bench.

The loop is the black vertical part. Looks like paint is missing on the bell from the loop rubbing.

 

Thanks much for the help.  I'll look into getting bearings.  I'll check in once I change the belt and adjust that chute loop cable.

[seuadr 488]

On 2/17/2021 at 2:09 PM, artietube said:

 

Ah, ok, I get it now.  That makes sense.  The belt is definitely not rubbing against the bell.  The PTO seems to engage very well and the thrower stops as soon as it hits a load.  Which leads me to believe that the wrong belt orientation plus the idea that the belt is wrong to begin with are my issues.  I was wondering why there seemed to be no load on the clutch spring... duh.

 

As far as the grease situation goes I just want to not mess anything up as I'm a newb to all this equipment.

 

Thanks again to all!!

Mine had similar behavior and it turned out to be the bar that adjusts the PTO tension when engaging the belt. take a look at the picture in this post:

 

 

that trunion spins. i gave mein about 4 turns closer to the driver's seat and now the belt will smoke before the blower stops