Tillage Work

[haydendavid380 759]

It seems like anybody who is anybody runs plows on these tractors, what what about the other types of tillage implements? I was able to pick up a cultivator cheap and looking for the types of results that can be expected from them.

 

Also, anyone running a disc?

[Achto 27,511]

I have pulled a disc behind a . A double gang does a better job than a single gang. The disadvantage to a double gang is you can not pick it up to turn around at the end of the row.

 

I have a cultivator. It does a great job, but if there is an abundance of trash (old sod, leaves, etc.) on the soil it is prone to plugging up. 

[WHX?? 48,799]

@Lane Ranger runs a lot of different implements on his round hoods.....  hopefully he'll chime in. 

[cschannuth 3,816]

The C-161 is my ground engagement machine but they all get in on different chores. 

[c-series don 8,670]

Here’s my C-165 automatic with 36” tiller, works like a charm. However as I’ve said here before, I think the best setup would be an 8-speed tractor with electric lift. 

[haydendavid380 759]

1 hour ago, Achto said:

I have pulled a disc behind a . A double gang does a better job than a single gang. The disadvantage to a double gang is you can not pick it up to turn around at the end of the row.

 

I have a cultivator. It does a great job, but if there is an abundance of trash (old sod, leaves, etc.) on the soil it is prone to plugging up. 

 

So the cultivator should be good in a clean garden area that is typically tilled with a walk behind?

 

Just trying to bust up the surface 

[Achto 27,511]

1 hour ago, haydendavid380 said:

So the cultivator should be good in a clean garden area that is typically tilled with a walk behind?

 

Correct. The cultivator is typically used to keep the weeds down in between the rows of plants.

 

Cultivating corn in the farming industry used to be a very common practice before herbicides took it's place. Now cultivating is typically only done to inject urea into the ground. 

 

[Lane Ranger 10,947]

The Horse ag implements I have used include, garden plows (8 inch and 12 inch ), 18 point drag harrow , 9 point cultivator and a wheel horse two pice mid and rear cultivator  set, disc, and tiller.   I have had the implements on RJ’s , round hoods, B-80s , 1054s and a 36 inch tiller on aC-121 and 314-8 tractor.

 

 

The plowing of new soil works best with the bigger 1054 and 12 inch garden plow that was made for that model and other bigger tractors .  The weight of this bigger plow helps it pull well and cut thrust the soil cleanly.  The 8 inch plows for RJs and round hoods are a little different but work well on soil already broken or plowed before.  A round hood with 7 or 8 hp has enough power to pull plow thru previously unplowed soil but it can be a little tough when more clay in soil.

 

I have used the single disc (not the double like Achto  discussed above). But they need many passes and I would use two concrete blocks for weight all the time.  
The 18 point drag harrow I owned was bought to use on a very clay type garden soil.  I completely redid every part.  We had one as kids but I bought one at 63 years old.  Sold after two years as it would not really break up clay .  I used concrete blocks on top and pulled with my 701 Round hood.  I sold to a lady that used in her horse arena and she loved for dragging manure and straw!

 

Th cultivators vary in type and application. I have a two piece mid and rear tiller set no I have used several times in a large garden .  I will say it is not really a good cultivation system.  I still own to put on a tractor for shows but not used in gardens. My favorite cultivator is Wheel Horse Brinly early Brinly type with nine tines. I used thee different sized points (Danish tines and WH long points) .  I have three 10 pound weights I can place on this cultivator.  I can clean out seven 60 foot rows in a garden in 5 to 20 minutes with this cultivator.

 

Now for last five years I have used the Wheel Horse 36 inch tillers to till up my gardens.  I used a c-121 and a 314-8 with two different tillers.  They both worked the same Nd did an excellent job.  When ground cover is on the garden the tiller make need a couple passes but the weeds and grass will dry up. 
 

so that’s about all the perspective I can give for the ag attachments like Jim suggested I do.

 

Here are some pics.  I did last year acquire a pretty complete set of  early RJ attachments (but I had as a kid 55 years ago and used before).  My brother David and I in pics 50 years apart! 

 

[haydendavid380 759]

Thank you for the feed back and all the pictures Lane!

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

6 hours ago, Lane Ranger said:

The Horse ag implements I have used include, garden plows (8 inch and 12 inch ), 18 point drag harrow , 9 point cultivator and a wheel horse two pice mid and rear cultivator  set, disc, and tiller.   I have had the implements on RJ’s , round hoods, B-80s , 1054s and a 36 inch tiller on aC-121 and 314-8 tractor.

 

 

The plowing of new soil works best with the bigger 1054 and 12 inch garden plow that was made for that model and other bigger tractors .  The weight of this bigger plow helps it pull well and cut thrust the soil cleanly.  The 8 inch plows for RJs and round hoods are a little different but work well on soil already broken or plowed before.  A round hood with 7 or 8 hp has enough power to pull plow thru previously unplowed soil but it can be a little tough when more clay in soil.

 

I have used the single disc (not the double like Achto  discussed above). But they need many passes and I would use two concrete blocks for weight all the time.  
The 18 point drag harrow I owned was bought to use on a very clay type garden soil.  I completely redid every part.  We had one as kids but I bought one at 63 years old.  Sold after two years as it would not really break up clay .  I used concrete blocks on top and pulled with my 701 Round hood.  I sold to a lady that used in her horse arena and she loved for dragging manure and straw!

 

Th cultivators vary in type and application. I have a two piece mid and rear tiller set no I have used several times in a large garden .  I will say it is not really a good cultivation system.  I still own to put on a tractor for shows but not used in gardens. My favorite cultivator is Wheel Horse Brinly early Brinly type with nine tines. I used thee different sized points (Danish tines and WH long points) .  I have three 10 pound weights I can place on this cultivator.  I can clean out seven 60 foot rows in a garden in 5 to 20 minutes with this cultivator.

 

Now for last five years I have used the Wheel Horse 36 inch tillers to till up my gardens.  I used a c-121 and a 314-8 with two different tillers.  They both worked the same Nd did an excellent job.  When ground cover is on the garden the tiller make need a couple passes but the weeds and grass will dry up. 
 

so that’s about all the perspective I can give for the ag attachments like Jim suggested I do.

 

Here are some pics.  I did last year acquire a pretty complete set of  early RJ attachments (but I had as a kid 55 years ago and used before).  My brother David and I in pics 50 years apart! 

 

Are those style (pic 4th from bottom) spike tooth harrows rare? and were made by ?

[Lane Ranger 10,947]

No spiked tooth harrow is not rare it was made by a supplier to Wheel Horse in Cleveland.  Several other tractor companies had this harrow in their lineup of attachments.  Wheel Horse had this available until late 1960s from research I did.  The manual is in the ground engaging implements section on Red Square.  Another spiked tooth version was made until 1980.

 

 

Edited February 16, 2021 by Lane Ranger

[haydendavid380 759]

The one I have is this style. I picked it up for $50 late last year

 

Edited March 15, 2021 by haydendavid380

[haydendavid380 759]

@pullstart

 

Is the disc you run one of the newer production ones? It looks pretty new. If so, how has it been? The reviews are pretty hit or miss.

[Pullstart 62,807]

24 minutes ago, haydendavid380 said:

@pullstart

 

Is the disc you run one of the newer production ones? It looks pretty new. If so, how has it been? The reviews are pretty hit or miss.

thanks for pulling me into this!  Mine is a Brinly brand.  It’s newer and in sanely loam works great.  Now we have more clay and it’s beginning to self destruct or just hops back and forth.  I did build a chariot of sorts and stick my kids on it in 1st gear to break up the garden after plowing last year.