Snow plow woes

[Too much red 65]

I'm trying to hook up a snow plow to my 854 and I'm not having any luck. I bought the rear attach o matic setup from wheel horse parts and more. I bought the plow off of cl and cleaned it up and got it working. Now, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to connect it. Any one have suggestions? Snow plow is a 96-42bc01. Tractor is a 854

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

They handle needs to be "laid" down or removed , then drive over it, raise the rear bar up into the hitch and clamp the latches, the center link goes onto the mower lift bar (lower it down to attach) then raise, now put your angle lever back on should be good to go plowing,

[peter lena 8,583]

agree with hillbilly , that vertical  plow lever should be unbolted and laid down on the ground , then drive over frame , till rear cross bar lines up with the two open loops for the frame cross bar to fit into. lower both lever traps on bar and secure with " R  "  CLIPS SO THEY WILL NOT OPEN. now secure the lift bar at mid frame , to plow with a bolt , and reblot vertical handle , lubricate all contact points. once bolted on you should be able to lift it and using vertical handle , to steering quadrant , should be able to swing plow side to side . pete   

[Too much red 65]

7 minutes ago, WVHillbilly520H said:

They handle needs to be "laid" down or removed , then drive over it, raise the rear bar up into the hitch and clamp the latches, the center link goes onto the mower lift bar (lower it down to attach) then raise, now put your angle lever back on should be good to go plowing,

I know how to get it under the tractor, the problem is connecting the rear bar. The angle iron of the attachomatic won't let me connect the bar. 

[peter lena 8,583]

too much red,  picturehttps://www.google.com/search?q=wheel+horse+plow+mounting+pictures&sxsrf=ALeKk03-7j__UJ_oqAfUwXSz1dzLpxammQ:1613264950728&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=G4KXt2KuoOlPcM%2CRSrn8EFvILzCCM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSUoweHu249XXS4F-Odb6JeegDc3A&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjz0MOimOjuAhUKUt8KHRf5AtwQ9QF6BAgOEAE#imgrc=G4KXt2KuoOlPcM . pete

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

3 minutes ago, Too much red said:

I know how to get it under the tractor, the problem is connecting the rear bar. The angle iron of the attachomatic won't let me connect the bar. 

It may go in front of the axle not the back on your model, all I have are TORO version 520s.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,033]

The 854 is a short frame tractor so move the rear A-frame round bar ahead to the next pair of holes.

 

Opps - You have the early axle hitch that mounts in front of the axle housings for the early style A-frames.

 

The axle hitch must match the style/age of plow you have.

 

Dozer DNA of short tractor frame dozer blades

1961 model BD-4271 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle - replaced by

1962 model BD-4262 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle

1963 model BD-4263 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle

1964 model BD-4264 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle

1965-1966 model BD-4264A - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle

1967 model BD-4267 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle

1968 model 6-2111 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle

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1968 model 6-4111 - First to fit LONG & SHORT frame tractors and first to mount under the rear axle - replaced by

1969 model [6-4112 + 6-9621]

1970-73 model [6-4113 + 6-9622]

1973-74 model [6-4113 + 6-9623]

1974 model [6-4114 + 6-9624]

1974 model 6-2131

1975 model 6-2132

1976 model 6-2133

1976 model 66-42BC01

1977 model 76-42BC01

1978 model 86-42BC01

1979 model 96-42BC01

1980 model 06-42BC01

1981-1984 model 06-42BC02 (Up to here they are 42" wide)

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1984-1989 model 06-48BC01 (They are now 48" wide)

1990 model 06-48BC02 (Last blade to have 3 angle positions)

1991-1993 model 06-48BC03 (First blade to have 5 angle positions)

1993-2001 model 79350 - (105-1502 kit adapts 2001 and older GT Classic-Series blades to fit 2002 and later tractors

2002 2004-2009 2012 model 79364 - (105-1501 kit adapts 79364 blade to fit 2001 and older GT Classic-Series)

[Handy Don 12,163]

7 minutes ago, Too much red said:

I know how to get it under the tractor, the problem is connecting the rear bar. The angle iron of the attachomatic won't let me connect the bar. 

The new part from Lowell has to be mounted UNDER the transaxle, not behind it. Th silver handles should point to the rear (not up or down) before they are latched and downward after they are latched.

 

Edited February 14, 2021 by Handy Don

[haydendavid380 759]

That's not how the bracket is positioned. Hold on, I'm getting a picture 

[haydendavid380 759]

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

Oh dang, I didn't look at the pictures close enough my bad my apologies. Yes what the others have posted.

[Too much red 65]

5 minutes ago, peter lena said:

too much red,  picturehttps://www.google.com/search?q=wheel+horse+plow+mounting+pictures&sxsrf=ALeKk03-7j__UJ_oqAfUwXSz1dzLpxammQ:1613264950728&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=G4KXt2KuoOlPcM%2CRSrn8EFvILzCCM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSUoweHu249XXS4F-Odb6JeegDc3A&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjz0MOimOjuAhUKUt8KHRf5AtwQ9QF6BAgOEAE#imgrc=G4KXt2KuoOlPcM . pete

I don't have that attachment underneath. Looks like I'm missing that too.

[haydendavid380 759]

[Too much red 65]

9 minutes ago, haydendavid380 said:

My bracket is opposite of yours 

[Too much red 65]

I cannot mount it underneath. The bar that runs between the 2 ends hits the bottom of the transaxle casing. Are you saying I need to cut my attachomatic up and mount it underneath?

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

Here's what they should look like, the red and bare metal one I made myself, the black one is factory.

[Too much red 65]

Ok, so I need a different rear attachomatic altogether then? That makes more sense. Wish I knew that before I bought this one.

[troutbum70 857]

The handles to the tach a matic face the rear the jaw openings face the front, turn the atach a matic 180 degrees.

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

1 minute ago, Too much red said:

Ok, so I need a different rear attachomatic altogether then? That makes more sense. Wish I knew that before I bought this one.

Looks that way, Lowell is good I'm sure he will work it out with you.

[Too much red 65]

Just now, WVHillbilly520H said:

Looks that way, Lowell is good I'm sure he will work it out with you.

It's not Lowell's fault, it's mine. I'll just chalk it up to learning pains. 

[Blackhood Bill 721]

I think this is what is being said.

 

1. Turn bracket according to yellow arrows, but

2. Green arrow indicates this bar is being hit by case when installed.

 

which means a different bracket is needed if case is hitting cross bar on bracket.

 

Lowell good people Talk with him first before doing anything to quick as a knee jerk reaction. 

[Too much red 65]

https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/toro-wheel-horse-hitch-104659-snow-dozer-blade-tiller-bracket-with-setup-bar/

I believe this is the one I need. It doesn't say that it works for short frame wheel horses, is that ok?

[Horse Newbie 7,057]

1 hour ago, WVHillbilly520H said:

Looks that way, Lowell is good I'm sure he will work it out with you.

I agree ! Lowell will help you anyway he can !

I placed an order with him that did not turn out well for me that was no fault of his...

We worked something out that was favorable to me...and as a thank you to him and Joette I placed an order for some Wheel Horse Parts and More apparel.

Edited February 14, 2021 by Horse Newbie

[Blackhood Bill 721]

@Too much redFrom what I’m seeing yes that looks correct. But as I stated above call Lowell first, I think you will be surprised at what might, could happen.

[Too much red 65]

1 minute ago, Blackhood Bill said:

@Too much redFrom what I’m seeing yes that looks correct. But as I stated above call Lowell first, I think you will be surprised at what might, could happen.

Ok, thanks guys. I appreciate all the help. Glad to know I wasn't just looking over a simple little thing.