Anyone seen a drain plug like this?

[CB1993 34]

Has anyone seen an engine oil drain like this? This is on a k241 engine. This might be common but I am new to wheel horse. I can't seem to find any pictures of a drain plug like this. Thanks!

[ebinmaine 67,695]

Yepp. 

Grabation by pliers. 

 

'Bout blew my mind first time I saw a round one. 

[rj35hunter 283]

Yes completely stock for certain years maybe mid 60’s to early 70’s range....I know by 72 and up they changed to hex head 

[squonk 41,164]

Yup. More than once. I think that's 3/8" pipe. You can go to a hardware store and get a pipe coupler and a square head pipe plug. Then change the oil and you will be able to use an adjustable wrench next time

[Racinbob 11,100]

I've had a few like that years ago. Now I replace them with this:

 

 

 

[pfrederi 17,741]

Great idea half the time when I unscrew the cap the nipple tries to back out...

[roadapples 6,983]

2 hours ago, Racinbob said:

I've had a few like that years ago. Now I replace them with this:

 

 

 

What is "this" called..

[Racinbob 11,100]

It's called an EZ Drain. A piece of tubing slides on that nipple and into a jug. I have one on my truck too. Love them. 

[Achto 27,622]

1 hour ago, roadapples said:

What is "this" called

 

Another company that makes them is Fumoto valve. They can be purchased in several variations.

 

https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0rSABhDlARIsAJtjfCdEVRsOW2JHYVwssVs9HYbsh10zgbCuVkKobwi-5FH3iQ9eJ9K0ZHYaAilTEALw_wcB

[lynnmor 7,315]

If you want to stay with a pipe cap, here is one that should work nicely.  Use thread locker on the engine end of the pipe nipple and Teflon at the cap to keep the nipple in place.

[rjg854 11,389]

Thanks for the link @lynnmor, I found a few like that at the local hardware store, and bought all they had. Which wasn't many, I've checked a few times after that, but they haven't been restocked. So good to know.

[oilwell1415 563]

You should be able to get a 1/4 turn valve at any of the big box hardware stores that will screw onto that nipple.  Just make sure you get one marked WOG (water, oil, gas) so the oil doesn't degrade the seals.

[Achto 27,622]

40 minutes ago, oilwell1415 said:

You should be able to get a 1/4 turn valve at any of the big box hardware stores that will screw onto that nipple.

 

Only down side of a normal 1/4 turn valve is that the handle does not lock in place. On the EZ drain and Fumoto valves you have to lift the handle to be able to open the valve. This gives less chance of it opening by mistake.

[pfrederi 17,741]

3 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

Only down side of a normal 1/4 turn valve is that the handle does not lock in place. On the EZ drain and Fumoto valves you have to lift the handle to be able to open the valve. This gives less chance of it opening by mistake.

 

 

That is an important point.  I was brush hogging with my Case DC3 that had a petcock oil drain.  the tall grass brush pushed it open.  Luckily I caught it before big problems...

Edited January 25, 2021 by pfrederi

[CB1993 34]

14 hours ago, lynnmor said:

If you want to stay with a pipe cap, here is one that should work nicely.  Use thread locker on the engine end of the pipe nipple and Teflon at the cap to keep the nipple in place.

I will definitely be doing this. Thank you!

[Racinbob 11,100]

16 hours ago, Achto said:

 

Another company that makes them is Fumoto valve. They can be purchased in several variations.

 

https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0rSABhDlARIsAJtjfCdEVRsOW2JHYVwssVs9HYbsh10zgbCuVkKobwi-5FH3iQ9eJ9K0ZHYaAilTEALw_wcB

 

That's where I get mine. I just call them EZ Drain. 

 

37 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

Only down side of a normal 1/4 turn valve is that the handle does not lock in place. On the EZ drain and Fumoto valves you have to lift the handle to be able to open the valve. This gives less chance of it opening by mistake.

 

Excellent point. A fairly recent addition they include with their valves now is a little plastic piece that prevents you from lifting the lever out of the locked position. I don't use it in my applications but I'm sure there are some situations that would warrant using it. 

[squonk 41,164]

https://ezoildrainvalve.com/index.html

[71_Bronco 1,072]

I need to add some pipe to my engine to make the drain come out the side. Transplanted engine just has the plug in the center.

 

I'm going to be trying out one of those EZ valve that @squonk posted. If the 3/8 NPT is correct, it's part number EZ-110.

 

On a side note, my '68 Commando 8 has the round "plug" as shown in the original picture. Had to use pliers to get it off due to it's smooth round body. The hex cap looks like it would be a much better option.

 

EDIT: Looks like that "EZ Drain" brand all have male threads, so a coupling would be required between the extension pipe and the valve. Did you need a coupling on yours @Racinbob?

Edited January 25, 2021 by 71_Bronco

[oilwell1415 563]

1 hour ago, Achto said:

 

Only down side of a normal 1/4 turn valve is that the handle does not lock in place. On the EZ drain and Fumoto valves you have to lift the handle to be able to open the valve. This gives less chance of it opening by mistake.

That is easily overcome by putting some thought into the installation.

[Racinbob 11,100]

1 hour ago, 71_Bronco said:

I need to add some pipe to my engine to make the drain come out the side. Transplanted engine just has the plug in the center.

 

I'm going to be trying out one of those EZ valve that @squonk posted. If the 3/8 NPT is correct, it's part number EZ-110.

 

On a side note, my '68 Commando 8 has the round "plug" as shown in the original picture. Had to use pliers to get it off due to it's smooth round body. The hex cap looks like it would be a much better option.

 

EDIT: Looks like that "EZ Drain" brand all have male threads, so a coupling would be required between the extension pipe and the valve. Did you need a coupling on yours @Racinbob?

 

Yes, I did use a coupling. From the galvanized 90° on the back of the engine I installed a short brass nipple, a brass coupling then the valve. I didn't use an EZ brand. It's from the link that Dan posted. Fumoto. 

[briankd 817]

On 1/24/2021 at 11:25 AM, CB1993 said:

Has anyone seen an engine oil drain like this? This is on a k241 engine. This might be common but I am new to wheel horse. I can't seem to find any pictures of a drain plug like this. Thanks!

 

 

my 857 has the same plug and i never changed it all these years just use a vise grip and screw it off and put it right back on no problems 

[Chestnut 315]

This drain valve came on a tractor made by that 3 letter company that's acquired so many brands. My MIL bought the tractor a few years ago. It is certainly easy to use, push and twist action. Don't know what threads. I know a lot of members here would much rather a metal valve body rather than CPS, but it could be another option.

 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

1 hour ago, Chestnut said:

Don't know what threads

 

I believe that's the typical 3/8 pipe thread.  I've got one on a snow blower and it seems to work OK.  Been on there since I got it quite a few years ago.  No leaks.

 

Hint to those who still have the pipe caps, if you get a 90° elbow, you can use a plug with a square head as a stopper, and point it DOWN when installed.  The nipple won't try to unscrew when you pull the plug to drain the oil.  Might need a longer nipple to reach past the frame rail though.

 

Edited January 27, 2021 by Jeff-C175

[Chestnut 315]

1 hour ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

I believe that's the typical 3/8 pipe thread. 

 

I thought so but didn't want to commit. I think the oil filter on that tractor has metric threads

[WHX?? 48,834]

In my quest to change oil on anything without making the usual mess & cluster fuss I plumbed it down and away. on a 241 ... didn't help...got up to get (another) beer and knocked the jug over.....