How can I put a 120° bend in 3/4" diameter rod?

[Oldskool 6,644]

Just now, WVHillbilly520H said:

We had 2 or 3 at the last place I worked they were all different , no not super tight radius. A 90° bend angle is just that ,but what is the radius on the factory spindles 1.5" ?

I didnt realize they were made different. I have no idea what the radius is on the spindles. I do know on my custom, spindles from a Craftsman fit and had the same angle

[ebinmaine 67,695]

7 hours ago, Oldskool said:

@ebinmaine I sent you a message did it not go thru??

No sir. Got one a couple days ago. Not today. 

[ebinmaine 67,695]

7 hours ago, 71_Bronco said:

welded

You've kinda hit something there. 

 

I've done some extra measuring and thoughts. 

 

As far as the colosusususes spindles, I'm going to go a slightly different direction. No matter how tight the radius is it'll still be higher off the ground than I'd like. But more importantly, too wide to cross my wooden bridge. 

 

 

I am still going to use the information in this thread to bend/make the linkages for the brake. 

 

 

I'm thinking a set of spindles made of C channel ala @Achto is the best answer. 

[Oldskool 6,644]

How much higher and how much wider would it be??

[ebinmaine 67,695]

1 hour ago, Oldskool said:

How much higher and how much wider would it be??

 

@OldWorkHorse was nice enough to make me up a plate that I'm going to use to raise the rear of the frame 4". 

With the large tires and that 4"  raise I'll be at around 20" or so from the bottom of the rear frame angle piece to the floor.

 

 

I'd like to get the front height to be about the same but it's going to be at least 2" taller...

 

The outside width across the rear is 40",+/-. 

The front has to stay 42", or less. Otherwise I can't cross the current bridge.

I still need to double check my measurements to be honest but if I use a stock 3/4 rod type spindle I'm going to end up two or four inches too wide....

 

So if I use a c type spindle I can adjust for both height and width..

[Oldskool 6,644]

7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

So if I use a c type spindle I can adjust for both height and width..

I'm not familiar with this style. Any pics?

[ebinmaine 67,695]

18 minutes ago, Oldskool said:

I'm not familiar with this style. Any pics?

 

I do but it's not mine to share...

 

@Achto

Can I post that pic?

[Achto 27,622]

9 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

@Achto

Can I post that pic?

 

 

I got it.

[ebinmaine 67,695]

@Achto

Thanks mister

 

 

@Oldskool

There you go.

 

I'm going to build a similar thing and weld the trailer stub axle right to the outside instead of a piece of 3/4 rod. 

[Achto 27,622]

8 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I'm going to build a similar thing and weld the trailer stub axle right to the outside instead of a piece of 3/4 rod. 

 

For mine I drilled a hole through the vertical portion of the C so that the spindle passes through it. It is only welded on the inside of the C, I thought this to be stronger than butt welding the 2 together. Plus it left a clean surface for the bearing to set against.

Edited January 26, 2021 by Achto

[ebinmaine 67,695]

4 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

For mine I drilled a hole through the vertical portion of the C so that the spindle passes through it. It is only welded on the inside of the C, I thought this to be stronger than a butt welding the 2 together. Plus it left a clean surface for the bearing to set against.

 

Yes sir. I'll be doing the same.

 

I'll most likely be welding the steering knuckle tab at the top instead of the bottom because it lines up better.

 

[Oldskool 6,644]

1 hour ago, Achto said:

 

 

I got it.

I was thinking this might be what you were getting at

 

[ebinmaine 67,695]

Here's how it'll be made...

 

 

 

 

 

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

5 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Here's how it'll be made...

 

 

 

 

 

Why didn't you just say Cub Cadet spindles???

[ebinmaine 67,695]

1 minute ago, WVHillbilly520H said:

Why didn't you just say Cub Cadet spindles???

Niiiice....

The things ya learn everyday...

[MikMacMike 479]

Hahahahaha I luv it, theres always a thousand and one ways to tweak, but always try to make a point of adding a grease point too. I find that is so important li8ke the ol days gone by......past years youd need a manual just to find all the grease points compared to today heheheheh, Like Studebaker LOL

Edited January 26, 2021 by MikMacMike

[ebinmaine 67,695]

51 minutes ago, MikMacMike said:

grease

Quite true quite true. Thanks for bringing that up. Luckily enough on this one the person who originally built the axle was nice enough to put a grease zerk in a nice outward location on each side.

 

[Wheel Horse 3D 3,795]

On 1/24/2021 at 1:10 PM, ebinmaine said:

Love this site. .

 

Asks question and within just a few minutes several answers. 

 

The "torch" is just a handheld with an old black tank. I don't remember what's in it. 

 

I did try to bend a piece experimentally. 

The torch I have just doesn't get anything to do with red hot. 

I was able to bend it with a 3 foot piece of iron pipe and a large me for leverage. 

 

I found that the last 2" just before the bend was not quite straight. 

Perhaps a slightly smaller diameter and longer piece of pipe would work better. 

 

Ideally of course... More heat.  

 

 

Throw ya a few bricks together with a blowdrier or small fan EB!  make ya a temp forge. or even an inground hole forge. Nothin like a forge for heatin and bendin! I keep me a bucket of coal picked from the train tracks for just such an occasion, but hardwood or charcoal does well too.

Edited March 18, 2021 by Wheel Horse 3D

[ebinmaine 67,695]

5 minutes ago, Wheel Horse 3D said:

 an inground hole forge. 

 

You know that's not a bad idea at all.

 

You got any links about that or ideas you want to share I'd be all ears and so would My Female Paint Department BBT Honey. 

[Wheel Horse 3D 3,795]

6 minutes ago, Wheel Horse 3D said:

Throw ya a few bricks together with a blowdrier or small fan EB!  make ya a temp forge. or even an inground hole forge. Nothin like a forge for heatin and bendin! I keep me a bucket of coal picked from the train tracks for just such an occasion, but hardwood or charcoal does well too.

 

[ebinmaine 67,695]

I don't have any coal or charcoal but I've got all kinds of hardwood seeing as to how we live in a forest that's 70% beechwood. 

[Wheel Horse 3D 3,795]

[Wheel Horse 3D 3,795]

Hers a pic of one buddy was tryin and i sketched some improvement suggestions

Once ya get good coals confine that space as much as ya can without killing air flow

Edited March 18, 2021 by Wheel Horse 3D

[Ed Kennell 38,251]

I like the forge idea.   Just be careful with the bricks or stones.   They will explode if they contain moisture.

[ebinmaine 67,695]

2 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

I like the forge idea.   Just be careful with the bricks or stones.   They will explode if they contain moisture.

Definitely a valid point. We've had it happen while camping. That's one of the things that may possibly scare the snot out of you.