DennisThornton 4,769 #76 Posted February 22, 2021 Nothing like BRASS, you meant. Yeah, I love brass, too! Been saving scraps with the notion that I'd cast someday. Love the old brass wood inlaid planes! Well, love most wood planes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #77 Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, DennisThornton said: Nothing like BRASS, you meant. Yeah, I love brass, too! Been saving scraps with the notion that I'd cast someday. Love the old brass wood inlaid planes! Well, love most wood planes... Like this one? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #78 Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, formariz said: Like this one? Beautiful! I have several planes, mostly Stanleys, the common and some not so. Have a few wooden planes too. Dovetailed steel bottom I see. Yep! Very nice indeed! I have no inlaids and I never see any to buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #79 Posted February 23, 2021 Brass pieces are now completed . Next step will be in laying them into ends. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #80 Posted February 23, 2021 Brass piece now inlaid into end. This is a rather difficult job due to the end grain and the different angles on it also. I use a combination of tools I made. Starting with a type of a croze and then with a special float for the bulk of work. Float cuts end grain fairly easily much like a low angle plane. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #81 Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, formariz said: Brass piece now inlaid into end. This is a rather difficult job due to the end grain and the different angles on it also. I use a combination of tools I made. Starting with a type of a croze and then with a special float for the bulk of work. Float cuts end grain fairly easily much like a low angle plane. I pictured all that with chisel and mallet but I guess I can't say you cheated, just used two mortising tools I've never seen quite like that! Never seen on mounted and I'm not sure I've seen them curved. One of those slotted screws is a couple degrees off... As usual, awesome! Tools and talent! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #82 Posted February 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: One of those slotted screws is a couple degrees off... LOL. I had seen that and it was immediately corrected. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #83 Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, formariz said: LOL. I had seen that and it was immediately corrected. Well I certainly hope so! I'm groping for the correct word for your mortising tools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #84 Posted February 24, 2021 Broaches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #85 Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: Broaches? There really is no specific name for them since they are really unique and you will not find another two like them. This one is really my version of a Cooper's Croze. It just happens to be appropriate for the starting cuts in this case since it really is made for a curved surface anyway. This one I made for mortising narrow concave mortises pretty much like on this situation. It works just like a plane makers float which essentially is a file but due to the nature of having wide teeth it cuts like a plane. Its used by pulling it over material and it makes a very controlled smooth cut. If one rocks it along its curve, it will cut like a ripsaw. It is great on end grain providing a smooth fast cut. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #86 Posted February 24, 2021 I should have picked up on the croze. Forgot the name but know what it does. Knife makers use and call this a broach. I guess most are handmade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #87 Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, DennisThornton said: Knife makers use and call this a broach. I guess most are handmade Also a tool devised to deal with a particular situation. Essentially a combination mortise chisel/rip saw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #88 Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, formariz said: Also a tool devised to deal with a particular situation. Essentially a combination mortise chisel/rip saw. Yep! But probably not called a combination mortise chisel/rip saw. You really got me with that end grain. I was all ready for a real struggle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #89 Posted February 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: You really got me with that end grain. I was all ready for a real struggle. Difficult but there are many different ways of dealing with it. For this particular case that is the most efficient way of dealing with it. If it was an area to be carved that needed a glass smooth finish from the gouge or chisel I then would soften it with alcohol first and then carve it. The alcohol will soften it substantially but it will not cause it to swell like water will and it will evaporate quickly. As a young man I was taught to when planing the end grain of door casings while fitting miters to lick it prior to planing it. Sounds crazy but it works. Just one of thousands of little known tricks lost to most today. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #90 Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, formariz said: Difficult but there are many different ways of dealing with it. For this particular case that is the most efficient way of dealing with it. If it was an area to be carved that needed a glass smooth finish from the gouge or chisel I then would soften it with alcohol first and then carve it. The alcohol will soften it substantially but it will not cause it to swell like water will and it will evaporate quickly. As a young man I was taught to when planing the end grain of door casings while fitting miters to lick it prior to planing it. Sounds crazy but it works. Just one of thousands of little known tricks lost to most today. I've read about using alcohol but never tried it. I wonder if it is still the water in a 70%/30% that is doing the work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #91 Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, DennisThornton said: I've read about using alcohol but never tried it. I wonder if it is still the water in a 70%/30% that is doing the work? For sure the water is doing the most work in that solution. The alcohol's main function there is to "wick" out the water faster. I am not fond of using water unless it is something very small. Water and dried wood are not good companions. Whatever liquid is used ( I also use mineral spirits) one should not really soak material entirely with it since there are adverse consequences of that. I merely keep a small rag soaked with it and just dab it on locally as I need it. After all you just want to soften what the gouge is going to cut right away which is not much. Edited February 25, 2021 by formariz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #92 Posted February 27, 2021 Been away from it for a couple of days but it has never been away from me. Time to inlay the brass on the other side. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #93 Posted March 2, 2021 Both sides now done. One more brass piece. Typically this is not done however mine are done this way to avoid the common wear that happens over time. That is the reason many have a replacement patch where it rubs against cart. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #94 Posted March 2, 2021 That one now pretty much done except for dressing it up a bit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #95 Posted March 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, formariz said: That one now pretty much done except for dressing it up a bit. Most of you heavy chisels hollow ground? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #96 Posted March 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, DennisThornton said: Referring to the backs? Those are Japanese chisels. They all have hollow ground backs. Different philosophy in tools altogether from Western tools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #97 Posted March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, formariz said: Referring to the backs? Those are Japanese chisels. They all have hollow ground backs. Different philosophy in tools altogether from Western tools. Didn't know that only Japanese chisels were hollow ground. Sure makes truing up the backs quick. Especially when laminated with some really high carbon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #98 Posted March 2, 2021 Brass wear piece now completed. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #99 Posted March 3, 2021 Tools to the side for a bit now. It’s time to develop final design. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,377 #100 Posted March 3, 2021 This is where it's going to get beautified Looking forward to the finished product Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
