oliver2-44 9,756 #201 Posted January 19, 2023 Thanks, I'm always looking to improve my woodworking bag of tricks and skills. The sandpaper on the form is a neat new one to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #202 Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Two are now done. Removed them a little earlier from form since it is pretty warm in here and it’s curing fast. They will be dressed to about 2/3 of their width. Have enough material milled for two more this way they will already be done for the next one. On the trial runs I leave them in form overnight. When removed for glue they will already keep 50% of the tight bottom curve which makes it a lot easier and faster on the glue up. It had been a few years since I used this form, so waxed parts were not as slippery as they should have been . It wasn't a problem but decided to cover it with the 3M blue tape which has a very slippery surface . Forgot to mention that for something like this or somewhat complicated requiring long glue open time, I use Elmer's Glue All White glue. It has the longest open time of any glue of this type out there. Edited January 19, 2023 by formariz 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #203 Posted January 25, 2023 I was able to make 4 with material that was milled. They are already reduced in width to their final size and preliminarily dressed. Final dressing and possibly some decorations still to do. Laminations came out nicely with tight , gap less invisible glue lines. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,594 #204 Posted January 25, 2023 Beautiful work!!! No cracks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #205 Posted January 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Beautiful work!!! No cracks? Thank you. No not one single crack. Not much to it . The idea is to take one’s time and do dry runs , slow bending and clamping. Leaving them overnight clamped prior to gluing helps a lot. When unclamped to glue and clamp again they already retain 50% of the shape in the main bend. Time the gluing process, have all clamps and blocks at hand and should go without turning into a panic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #206 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Inside of arches needs to be shaped to a somewhat oval shape across their width in order to make it comfortable and not dig into animals’ neck and shoulder. I use a spokeshave and scrapers for that. All edges also get rounded at this point. Edited January 26, 2023 by formariz 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,233 #207 Posted January 26, 2023 Would these have ever been made by steam bending? I made some cover supports for my guideboat. I used birch and was quite suprised at the degree of flex and conformity to the template I had once they were heated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #208 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Handy Don said: Would these have ever been made by steam bending? I Traditionally they are not even steam bent. They are bent over fire pretty much like one uses fire inside a barrel to make staves pliable for bending. A proper sized sapling of usually walnut ( around 4” diameter ) is split in half. It is dressed with a draw knife to almost its finished dimensions . Then using a rather rudimentary form it is bent while on the fire. The rate of success varies since there are too many variables in the process. That was however how they were all made. No steam bending and no laminating. Curves however very rarely are close to the extreme that I have on mine. With the type of oxen used in these yokes, this shape follows the neck better and it is more efficient and comfortable when pulling. I have steam bent them but the shape does not stay constant all the time and I find that it is a lot more work. This way there is more consistency and it is forgiving of material quality or grain direction since one is dealing with pieces less than 1/8” thick. When using them one has to fit them over oxen’s neck first by opening them up pulling them up over the neck. On steam or fire bent one’s one has to be careful as not to open them excessively because they may break. Over time it’s sort of inevitable specially if there is already a slight failure at bending. The laminated ones are extremely strong and extremely hard to open . One really needs help to do it. They are like a real tough spring. I am however the only one ever to make them like this. I like the consistent results . Wether I make two or twenty they are always identical to each other. Fire bent typical bows Typically made from walnut saplings typical fire bent shape Hand wrought hardware to keep them closed Another fire bent one this one made from eucalyptus Mark from the form Mark from clamping outside over form on fire Edited January 26, 2023 by formariz 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #209 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Leather work starts. Method is simple but proven for centuries. Increased friction under load is the secret to it staying put and strong. Edited January 26, 2023 by formariz 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,280 #210 Posted January 26, 2023 9 hours ago, formariz said: A proper sized sapling of usually walnut ( around 4” diameter ) is split in half. It is dressed with a draw knife to almost its finished dimensions . Then using a rather rudimentary form it is bent while on the fire. The rate of success varies since there are too many variables in the process. That was however how they were all made. No steam bending If the sapling is green when being bent with the fire I guess some steam would be generated inside the sapling. Heartwood being much stronger than sapwood your laminated method will probably outlast the old traditional method. As gorgeous as your work is I think the laminated yokes are much more fitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #211 Posted January 26, 2023 Just about to the point that it can be used. Only center harness left for that. Some decorations to do in arches and it’s there. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #212 Posted January 27, 2023 Working on center harness which is the part that attaches yoke to cart. It’s a large leather belt. It’s a tough one to break in so it will flex to the area it is supposed to go to. Continuous wedging to stretch it and occasionally soaking it with alcohol will do it. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #213 Posted January 27, 2023 Final touches, decorations on arches. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,594 #214 Posted January 27, 2023 Maybe I missed it... are you going to stain / finish the wood? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,594 #215 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) repeat post Edited January 27, 2023 by SylvanLakeWH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,594 #216 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) repeat post Edited January 27, 2023 by SylvanLakeWH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #217 Posted January 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Maybe I missed it... are you going to stain / finish the wood? I decided that in the traditional way I am going to leave this one unfinished . Natural oxidation and one’s hands through handling will provide the finish. I have grown fond of its light ivory look. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #218 Posted January 31, 2023 Arches are done 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,376 #219 Posted January 31, 2023 Don't even miss one little detail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #220 Posted January 31, 2023 This is it. It’s completed. As mentioned before I decided to leave it unfinished in the traditional way. It would have been to owner to finish them if so wished. Usually they would varnish them. I always oil and wax them. I like them however unfinished showing the true character of wood used. It will be up to time and handling to provide the finish. Front Back 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunahead72 2,423 #221 Posted January 31, 2023 Let me be the first to congratulate you, Caz, that is just gorgeous! Well done, and thanks for taking us along for the ride! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,003 #222 Posted January 31, 2023 WOW. An incredible work of art. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,594 #223 Posted February 1, 2023 Beautiful!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #224 Posted February 1, 2023 Thank you everyone for the kind words and indulging me through out this . It was my intention when I planed to build it to leave a complete photographic record of every step involved in its construction. Since I am the last and only one to build this type of yoke I felt it necessary so future generations can see exactly how they were made. It has been done so in memory of those who shared their knowledge with me. I thought that you would enjoy the process using only hand tools as it used to be so I posted it here. The point of using only hand tools was not only so it would be entirely done the traditional way but more importantly to feel what the ones before me felt. It has really been a labor of love and it reflects the influence and teachings of several individuals. One day hopefully I will take it overseas to be used at least once . It will be displayed here and “eventually “ in my children’s and grandchildren’s homes. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,376 #225 Posted February 1, 2023 Truly a work of art, Caz. Congratulations on this awesome piece of history. I know and appreciate that it will remain in your family, but it also belongs in a museum or some type of gallery for the world to be able to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites