JCM 9,203 #26 Posted January 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, AMC RULES said: Yes sir, same tractor, same ags! Sitting proudly there under that beautiful American flag that allows you to set up your W-H tractor in this country any way you see fit to. God bless the U.S.A. Amen Brother, That is a real work of art. Love the front ags on that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #27 Posted January 14, 2021 I did the AGs all 4 corners because 1 I really liked the the OTR brand I put on the back (great year around traction without chains) and they are the same brand and correct factory size for the 520s and yes IMHO has increased my steering traction as well mowing slopes, gardening, and snow removal while installed in the "correct" orientation as the rears, these have a more pronounced bar angle than "generic" AGs plus have a straight center section that seems to enhance the ride (front/rear over the standard bar design)and reverse traction of the driven tires in my experiences so far. As a young fella, my father had a straight pipe stack on the CC Original K161 the only benefit of that was the cool factor ,definitely not my hearing. 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slim67 2,735 #28 Posted January 14, 2021 Like Ron Swanson from "parks and rec" would say, " because this is America and I can" ! 2 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skipper 1,788 #29 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 1. I run ags on the front because the plane janes tend to skid, so traction as primary reason. Yes it works. Doesn't hurt it looks good either . 2. I run a high stack, simply because I firmly believe the birds like the exhaust fumes much better than I do. Only reason at all. Edited January 14, 2021 by Skipper 3 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,622 #30 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Maxwell-8 said: Why would that be? Then they would build up mud no? You would think so but for steer tires they actually do work better. Other backward applications would be: On a wheel driven implement such as a manure spreader, Large grain carts, and also for a pulling tractor when there is an asphalt track. Mounting the tires backwards on a pulling tractor for an asphalt track adds one other element to the mix. Pulling on asphalt will start wearing/cutting the tread backwards leaving a taller sharper trailing on the lugs. When you turn them around to pull on a clay track, now the leading edge of the tire will be taller and sharper for better traction on the clay. It's one way to accomplish having cut pulling tires with out getting busted for grinding them. Grinding/cutting your tires to get a sharper leading edge is a no no in stock antique pulling classes. Judges often check our tires for grinder marks. Edited January 14, 2021 by Achto 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,254 #31 Posted January 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Achto said: way to accomplish having cut pulling tires with out getting busted for grinding them. Would a reverse burn out work to sharpen the ags? 2 2 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,697 #32 Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Would a reverse burn out work to sharpen the ags? Obviously yes...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,203 #33 Posted January 15, 2021 NICE 71 or 2 Chevelle SS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,622 #34 Posted January 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Would a reverse burn out work to sharpen the ags? That it would Ed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #35 Posted January 15, 2021 I have Ags on the front of my Deere 140, but I installed them backwards. I have a hydraulic blade on the front and push dirt. The Ags help hold the line better,. I am going to build or buy another WH and put a blade on it. Not sure if I will need the Ags on the front of it. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,922 #36 Posted January 15, 2021 So would reversing them, then chaining to a tree while on cement or asphalt? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #37 Posted January 15, 2021 I run them reversed so they don't throw mud at you as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,247 #38 Posted January 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, pullstart said: So would reversing them, then chaining to a tree while on cement or asphalt? Interesting question. Maybe also lower the air pressure to give the tread more flex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #39 Posted January 15, 2021 Left: AG mounted for steering Right: normal After some thinking: When AG are steering, in the normal postion, the ground gets taken head on by the ribs, and therfore no steering, When tires are flipped; they are not taking the ground/mud/sand/snow head, on but take sideways traction...... but wait, the ground, mud, moves true the ribs in the wrong direction? I am overthinking this 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,697 #40 Posted January 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said: Left: AG mounted for steering Right: normal After some thinking: When AG are steering, in the normal postion, the ground gets taken head on by the ribs, and therfore no steering, When tires are flipped; they are not taking the ground/mud/sand/snow head, on but take sideways traction...... but wait, the ground, mud, moves true the ribs in the wrong direction? I am overthinking this Part of the reason that ag/bar tires are so good for driving anything in a forward manner is that they are to a very large extent self-cleaning. if you imagine that the arrows are pointing forward when they are at the top of the tire then they are pointing backwards when they are at the bottom of the tire. If the tire spins at all the bars themselves will self-cleanse by moving the ground material to the OUTSIDE of the tire. SELF-CLEANING..... The reason that they work in the opposite manner on the front of the tractor is that the tread bars are now pointing forward when they are on the bottom. So no matter which way you turn the steering wheel one set of those bars is working directly against the ground and the other set of those bars is working to stay in line with the ground. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,329 #41 Posted January 15, 2021 21 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I run mine so tall because I want the exhaust to be completely out of my face and I find that with a shorter, quite frankly more aesthetically pleasing, stack on there the exhaust just blows right back at me 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,216 #42 Posted January 15, 2021 I do many things because the last four letters in American. ICAN 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites