Pullstart 62,922 #101 Posted January 26, 2021 Sorry to hear Scott. Y’all get well soon! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,703 #102 Posted January 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, pullstart said: get well soon! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikMacMike 479 #103 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 1:57 PM, Greentored said: Sure could, but I'd better check the price of taps first, as I dont have many big metric RH/LHs Keep your eye on Market place in FB and on the selling pages online, Ive seen many adds that are selling there used and some brand new taps and dyes. For us rebuilders they are definately one of the essential tools to have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikMacMike 479 #104 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 5:13 PM, Skipper said: Can you make axle shafts for the rear ends? then I think you have a thing right there Absolutly an excellent Idea, Ive been pondering the same thing but Id like to make them with out a keyway and an actual spline, dang that just got me all excited ....ops sorry. hahahaha 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikMacMike 479 #105 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 8:38 AM, oilwell1415 said: Just install this upside down. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Blue-Small-Body-2-1-Steering-Quickener,138447.html?sku=91032221&utm_medium=CSEGoogle&utm_source=CSE&utm_campaign=CSEGOOGLE&gclid=Cj0KCQiA9P__BRC0ARIsAEZ6irjMHbEULc58UqYcKmCIGZQcU4mIpOvKp8IMkmgkxOJ9hSiV1_JBeQUaAqyXEALw_wcB Ahhhh yes, those are the exact ones I was looking at too, there nice and small to adapt, perfect choice brother. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,673 #106 Posted January 26, 2021 50 minutes ago, MikMacMike said: Ahhhh yes, those are the exact ones I was looking at too, there nice and small to adapt, perfect choice brother. I have also found better prices on Heims Joints there. The ones I buy QA1 carbon steel they run $9 to $11 in 1/2", 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 1,926 #107 Posted February 16, 2021 Metal Onan flyball spacers are in high demand. Making them might be easier if you only cut five notches instead of ten. As I understand it, ten ball governors were only used on generator applications. Thoughts anyone. @lynnmor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,315 #108 Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Bill D said: Metal Onan flyball spacers are in high demand. Making them might be easier if you only cut five notches instead of ten. As I understand it, ten ball governors were only used on generator applications. Thoughts anyone. @lynnmor Ten balls were used in the 1800 RPM engines typically used on generators. Double the weight is needed to operate the governor at half the speed. Machining five notches would take less time than ten, but not as much as you might think, setup takes much of the time. The increased weight of a five notch spacer might tend to work loose quicker, the design depends on a press fit with no other means of keeping it in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 1,926 #109 Posted February 16, 2021 7 hours ago, lynnmor said: Ten balls were used in the 1800 RPM engines typically used on generators. Double the weight is needed to operate the governor at half the speed. Machining five notches would take less time than ten, but not as much as you might think, setup takes much of the time. The increased weight of a five notch spacer might tend to work loose quicker, the design depends on a press fit with no other means of keeping it in place. How about a 5 notch spacer with a tab. One of the members here made some spacers out of titanium with a tab. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,315 #110 Posted February 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Bill D said: How about a 5 notch spacer with a tab. One of the members here made some spacers out of titanium with a tab. The tab will make it go around but only the press fit will hold it sideways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,249 #111 Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, lynnmor said: The tab will make it go around but only the press fit will hold it sideways. What actually wears out on the spacer? Can a 10-slot spacer be reused by moving the 5 balls to the unused slots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,315 #112 Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Handy Don said: What actually wears out on the spacer? Can a 10-slot spacer be reused by moving the 5 balls to the unused slots? They don’t actually wear, the plastic as it ages loses its grip in the bore. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #113 Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Bill D said: How about a 5 notch spacer with a tab. One of the members here made some spacers out of titanium with a tab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,249 #114 Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, lynnmor said: They don’t actually wear, the plastic as it ages loses its grip in the bore. Interesting. I'm sure adhesives have been tried. Wonder is the plastic can be printed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,315 #115 Posted February 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Interesting. I'm sure adhesives have been tried. Wonder is the plastic can be printed? Actually some have had success with super glue. Do a complete cleaning and priming along with just a bit of surface scuffing and it would be worth a try. I did that with a plastic spacer that had a tab and I don’t expect problems. You sure could print a spacer, I don’t know if you can get material that is up to the task. Plastics can expand quite a bit in a hot engine and that is at the heart of the problem. Most complaints of over speeding is found after a complete engine warmup. Look at the photo of the spacer and see how thin it is at the root of the notches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,216 #116 Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 1:09 AM, Bill D said: Metal Onan flyball spacers are in high demand. Making them might be easier if you only cut five notches instead of ten. As I understand it, ten ball governors were only used on generator applications. Thoughts anyone. @lynnmor WAY beyond my capabilities haha, but a great idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,216 #117 Posted February 17, 2021 I have not forgotten this thread or any of the ideas fellas. Suffering a little 'gloomy weather' depression, between that and the shop being crazy, just not 'feeling' being in there after work and/or weekends. At the same time, a couple of you mentioned tie rod ends and I'm glad to do them! Shoot me a PM when you're ready and we can move forward- don't let me hold you up! The experimental/production stuff is gonna have to wait til the sun is shining again and it's time to break the Horses out for springtime work, which is only a month away here in NC. That will light a fire under my rearend, every time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KAA 1973 71 #118 Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Greentored said: WAY beyond my capabilities haha, but a great idea. Thats an easy part to laser or waterjet, just need a print to send to a shop. My brother has a Mennonite fab shop down the road from his machine shop we send parts for waterjet. Super cheap since they don't have overhead, (I.E., workers comp). We can't even buy the material for what this guy makes the entire part for. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,216 #119 Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, KAA 1973 said: Thats an easy part to laser or waterjet, just need a print to send to a shop. My brother has a Mennonite fab shop down the road from his machine shop we send parts for waterjet. Super cheap since they don't have overhead, (I.E., workers comp). We can't even buy the material for what this guy makes the entire part for. I would be dangerous with a waterjet and some CNC programming knowledge! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KAA 1973 71 #120 Posted February 17, 2021 At my day job we have 3 large 3D printers, running 24/7. On the outside we have parts 3D printed out of rubber and metal too. This would be a part to have 3D printed but it would cost 100X what the guy down the street does it for 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,703 #121 Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Greentored said: tie rod ends and I'm glad to do them! Shoot me a PM Did you have any luck checking into the 17 or 19 mm taps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,216 #122 Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Did you have any luck checking into the 17 or 19 mm taps? Yep, no problem. Sure I cant talk you into standard thread? LOL What kind of ends are you planning to use? Edited February 18, 2021 by Greentored 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,703 #123 Posted February 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Greentored said: Yep, no problem. Sure I cant talk you into standard thread? LOL What kind of ends are you planning to use? I'd be more than happy to do standard thread but I already have the ends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,703 #124 Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Greentored said: Yep, no problem. Sure I cant talk you into standard thread? LOL What kind of ends are you planning to use? I'll get you some pictures and measurements sometime in the next few days 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #125 Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) On 2/17/2021 at 7:17 AM, KAA 1973 said: Thats an easy part to laser or waterjet, just need a print to send to a shop. My brother has a Mennonite fab shop down the road from his machine shop we send parts for waterjet. Super cheap since they don't have overhead, (I.E., workers comp). We can't even buy the material for what this guy makes the entire part for. A waterjet can't make this part as precise as its needs to be, but a wire EDM can is just slow Video won't load sorry. VIDEO0045.mp4 VIDEO0045.mp4 VIDEO0045.mp4 Edited February 18, 2021 by WVHillbilly520H 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
