pfrederi 17,741 #26 Posted January 9, 2021 Carlilse vs Deestones same tire size 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,697 #27 Posted January 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Carlilse vs Deestones same tire size Well there's a variance for you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelhorseBob 1,549 #28 Posted January 9, 2021 I have Deestone 23 10.50-12 on mom my 416-8. They are easily 4” narrower than the stock tires on a 520. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #29 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Be aware that these tires are known to be small. They are not 23" tall. Or 10.5" wide more like 9.25". The down side of the cheap up front price... @Tj salyers if you like the Deestone tread style check out the Hi-Runs brand from TSC they run close to stated size height and width. Edited January 9, 2021 by WVHillbilly520H 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chestnut 315 #30 Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, WVHillbilly520H said: Or 10.5" wide more like 9.25". The down side of the cheap up front price... @Tj salyers if you like the Deestone tread style check out the Hi-Runs brand from TSC they run close to stated size height and width. I've been following this thread with some interest. Interesting to find that the Deestone's run so small. Does anyone know whether their 26-12.00x12 tires are more like a real 23-10.50x12? They're more expensive than the 10.50's but still a lot less than the Carlisle's or Hi-Run's. https://www.tires-easy.com/26-12.00-12/deestone-tires/d405/tirecode/DS5252 I was thinking about whether to put Ag tires on the FEL. It now has turf tire and chains. Adding air to the tires is a challenge due to the rear valves, chains, weight box, and not comfortable kneeling on the metal knee. The spare wheels I would put the Ag's for this tractor on aren't original Wheel Horse. They have valves on the outside. Which brings me to another question. Can anyone tell me the offset on the original 520-H rear wheels? The tractors are over two hours away. The wheels here are 7" wide and look like 5+" on the outside and 2-" on the inside. Also need a tractor with tires that'll work to get out and do trail maintenance. That may be a story for another day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #31 Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I've been following this thread with some interest. Interesting to find that the Deestone's run so small. Does anyone know whether their 26-12.00x12 tires are more like a real 23-10.50x12? They're more expensive than the 10.50's but still a lot less than the Carlisle's or Hi-Run's. https://www.tires-easy.com/26-12.00-12/deestone-tires/d405/tirecode/DS5252 I was thinking about whether to put Ag tires on the FEL. It now has turf tire and chains. Adding air to the tires is a challenge due to the rear valves, chains, weight box, and not comfortable kneeling on the metal knee. The spare wheels I would put the Ag's for this tractor on aren't original Wheel Horse. They have valves on the outside. Which brings me to another question. Can anyone tell me the offset on the original 520-H rear wheels? The tractors are over two hours away. The wheels here are 7" wide and look like 5+" on the outside and 2-" on the inside. Also need a tractor with tires that'll work to get out and do trail maintenance. That may be a story for another day. 1990-97 520s (also the xi series) have 8.5" wide wheels with approximately 3" of backspacing (I had enough room for IH cub weights on the inside) how much are you willing to spend on tires? because those OTRs I brag up are only $40 more than Deestone on eBay. Also check out my tire thread... Again just my experiences. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,075 #32 Posted January 10, 2021 12 hours ago, WVHillbilly520H said: Or 10.5" wide more like 9.25". The down side of the cheap up front price... @Tj salyers if you like the Deestone tread style check out the Hi-Runs brand from TSC they run close to stated size height and width. Hi-Runs is what I bought for my 1994 520H...no need for AGs for where I live and what I'm doing...I like 'em ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleredrider 409 #33 Posted January 10, 2021 I have ATV tires on my loader tractor. They have about 1 1/2" lugs, and are way more aggressive than any tractor tire. They are also higher load rating, and fit under the stock seat pan, without modifying anything. They are an off size for tractors, but common size for ATVs, 25x12x12. They are mounted on 10" wide wheels I got from Miller tire. Had to weld em up, but I like welding. I can drive around the yard just fine. In the spring my yard is a swamp, and as long as not spinning the tire, it doesn't tear it up. It might leave tread prints, but bout it. But, get in a situation where the tire spins, and it will tear the crap outta the yard!!!! I thought I had pics on my phone, but must have cleared it out. I will get some later today if anybody wants. Same with the tri ribs and 23 Firestones. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleredrider 409 #34 Posted January 10, 2021 Something I forgot to mention, on the loader tractor I have the Vredesteins up front. Not a tri rib, but does "bulge" slightly in the center, size not all the tire is on the ground. But even with no weight on the front, just the weight of the diesel, it steers better in the snow than the tri's do. The ATV tires will go thru easily and many times will push the front, and still does better... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #35 Posted January 10, 2021 heres the tires and rims on ole red i think he looks pretty awsome also they have tubes paint the rims white get some washers and stick them on there we should be in shape the paint wise i use international red and white i have thought about using regal red and white before so may use that soon i decided until i get older i would stop restoring ole red because the rims i painted over rust and im not a pro at it it should be easy to paint these rims because there rust free and smooth they are not wheel horse their dump cart rims and tires ill i will have to put a thew washeres on both sides or on one i dont know if it would hurt anything because the rim is so thin it wont fit the axle how many people run carlise ags here do you guys have a tractor with deestones and carlise tires at the same time how do you like the carlices filled how many run deestones tri ribs 400.8 what do you guys think of the tires. i am putting the deck impements back together just to let you guys know. Dan on your 1076 is the front tri ribs the same you sent me the 400.8 and is the back deestones also how do you like the ags are they filled is the fronts filled. awsome thing is the tri ribs will fit the rims i dont know if the rim is to small in width is does this look as thin on you guys wheel horses rims even thou there not wheel horse rims they will work a until i can get thin wheel horse rims i dont know if i should get the rim as close to the frame or should i put it a the end of the axle what do you guys think i should do because you have to keep the rear and the front in order but i think i should put them at the end and put washers behind them i am putting the rims on the is because the 16 6 50 8 rim looked kinda wiered with the rim with it that wide i seen the picture in the reviews in plus when the tires are close to the frame the axle sticks way to far out and doesnt look good what should i do sorry for all the questions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #36 Posted January 10, 2021 can i put washers on that part and usem that wat or will it bend axle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,697 #37 Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tj salyers said: heres the tires and rims on ole red i think he looks pretty awsome also they have tubes paint the rims white get some washers and stick them on there we should be in shape the paint wise i use international red and white i have thought about using regal red and white before so may use that soon i decided until i get older i would stop restoring ole red because the rims i painted over rust and im not a pro at it it should be easy to paint these rims because there rust free and smooth they are not wheel horse their dump cart rims and tires ill i will have to put a thew washeres on both sides or on one i dont know if it would hurt anything because the rim is so thin it wont fit the axle how many people run carlise ags here do you guys have a tractor with deestones and carlise tires at the same time how do you like the carlices filled I RUN CARLISLE AGS FILLED AND LOVE THEM. how many run deestones tri ribs 400.8 what do you guys think of the tires. i am putting the deck impements back together just to let you guys know. Dan on your 1076 is the front tri ribs the same you sent me the 400.8 and is the back deestones also how do you like the ags are they filled is the fronts filled. awsome thing is the tri ribs will fit the rims i dont know if the rim is to small in width is does this look as thin on you guys wheel horses rims even thou there not wheel horse rims they will work a until i can get thin wheel horse rims i dont know if i should get the rim as close to the frame or should i put it a the end of the axle what do you guys think THE WHEEL SHOULD BE OUT AT THE END OF THE AXLE. PUT SPACERS OR WASHERS INSIDE BETWEEN THE RIM AND SPINDLE. should do because you have to keep the rear and the front in order but i think i should put them at the end and put washers behind them i am putting the rims on the is because the 16 6 50 8 rim looked kinda wiered with the rim with it that wide i seen the picture in the reviews in plus when the tires are close to the frame the axle sticks way to far out and doesnt look good what should i do sorry for all the questions First thing....please don't apologize for questions. That's how we learn. It's all good. Answers above in BOLD 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,697 #38 Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tj salyers said: can i put washers on that part and usem that wat or will it bend axle Should not hurt anything as long they're the right size. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #39 Posted January 10, 2021 around up to 200 $ the reason i liked the deestones ags is because of the price but i do like the carlise how about you guys thanks ill try it glad it wont bend how do you like them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,697 #40 Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tj salyers said: around up to 200 $ the reason i liked the deestones ags is because of the price but i do like the carlise how about you guys thanks ill try it glad it wont bend how do you like them Carlisle as whole brand is good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #41 Posted January 10, 2021 okay thanks how do you like the fronts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldWorkHorse 3,045 #42 Posted January 10, 2021 This is the set I picked up for my 314-8 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #43 Posted January 10, 2021 ive looked at the carlise ags for a long time they have good reviews 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,389 #44 Posted January 10, 2021 Instead of a bunch of washers get bushings sized for the difference of the gap 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 817 #45 Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) hopefully the tractor shows will go on this year i bought me a set of carlisle tru power rear ags used good shape already mounted on WH rims couple year ago 40 bucks for the set with rims . i need to get me another set. i just stumbled onto that set at a local tractor swap meet. i put them on my 857 loaded them with washer fluid plowed my garden and they did great without any other weight Edited January 10, 2021 by briankd 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,884 #46 Posted January 10, 2021 Those front tires and wheel look like they are foam filled and would not work to put a regular tire one. I would suggest getting some correct wheels up front. @ebinmaine is right on with the carlyle being good tires. Randy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,622 #47 Posted January 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Tj salyers said: Dan on your 1076 is the front tri ribs the same you sent me the 400.8 and is the back deestones also how do you like the ags are they filled is the fronts filled The fronts on my 1076 are the same ones that I sent you a link for. They will fit good on the normal Wheel Horse rims. They do not how ever fit on the deeper dish wide rims that are found on the larger C models and the 300,400, & 500 models. The rear tires on my 1076 are Cheng Shin's. I picked these tires more for looks than function. This tractor is semi retired so it does not do a lot of work, but it still gets plenty of run time every year. For the same reason the tires are not loaded. It spends a fair amount of time loaded on a trailer to go to shows so I don't really want the extra weight to haul around. My Raider 12 that I use for mold board plowing has the same DeeStones on the front with Carlisle's on the rear. I choose Carlisle rear tires for function, I my opinion Carlise are one of the best tires for field work. Firestone ags may be a bit better for field work but they are a bit more expensive as well. All added weight on this tractor is cast iron. I have thought about loading the tires but so far the iron weights have given me all the weight that I have needed. There is 75bs on the right rear wheel, 150lbs on the left rear wheel and 50lbs hanging off from the front end. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #48 Posted January 10, 2021 dont know why the picture is there the tires a filled with air how about you guys thanks ill try it glad it wont bend how do you like them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #49 Posted January 10, 2021 the tires have air and im swapping them any way actually filled them today 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #50 Posted January 10, 2021 them with air Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
