"Manic-Mechanic" 1,194 #1 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) I have chains for standard rear turf tires, however they would not fit an ag. So, if I need to buy something new, maybe these straps? But the size is my concern....... anyone use chains or straps on 12 x 12-24 ag? Edited January 4, 2021 by oldman 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,806 #2 Posted January 4, 2021 I’ve never heard a bad thing about “rubber chains”. I have no solid experience with them myself, but think that you can’t go wrong to add traction and save your driveway surface. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Manic-Mechanic" 1,194 #3 Posted January 4, 2021 Ya, but find a set to fit ag tires Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,806 #4 Posted January 4, 2021 I’d ask the manufacturer. They should have a bit of adjustment.. or maybe air the ags down a bit before installing them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,310 #5 Posted January 4, 2021 I have a set of two link ice cleat metal chains for 23x10.5 tires and they DO fit my Carlisle AGs. THEY CAN BE A RIGHT REGULAR BUGGER TO PUT ON. Insert 37 expletives anywhere in the above sentence. What I find that I have to do: At the point of contact where the cross chains meet the side loops, MOST of those T joints need to be in between the Tire bars. MOST of the Cross chains must stay in between the tire bars with shortens up the length that the chain must go over the tire. Jack up the tractor and lay the chains over the top of the tire with the joint at the back so you have easy access. The side loop of the chain that does not have the main clip is the one that should be done first. Slide the chain a little bit too far that direction so you can get that one done up. This next part requires either 17 other people, 47 bungee cords, or maybe some mechanics wire. I just have the Paint Department help me. Slide the chain back over towards the side that is not yet attached while you are paying attention to the ends of the Cross chains on the attached side to make sure that they fall in between the tire bars. Often I find that more expletives during the previous step helps. Keep working the chain over and eventually you should catch the main link. I have used a brake drum spring tool to catch those links and put them together. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,302 #6 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) You could contact the manufacturer for information about using ag tires. I would think it is a bad idea since the rubber would only be backed up in one or two spots. If you call Mr. Esh, remember that he is Amish and there might be a bit of phone tag. Here is some information on their web site. Edited January 4, 2021 by lynnmor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #7 Posted January 5, 2021 5 hours ago, pullstart said: I’ve never heard a bad thing about “rubber chains”. I have no solid experience with them myself, but think that you can’t go wrong to add traction and save your driveway surface. Now you have... 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #8 Posted January 5, 2021 But what I find amusing is how most on here knock AG (lug) tires in snow, then praise the rubber chains but this little snippet is directly from the rubber chains web site... Things that make you go hhmmmm.... 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Manic-Mechanic" 1,194 #9 Posted January 5, 2021 5 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I have a set of two link ice cleat metal chains for 23x10.5 tires and they DO fit my Carlisle AGs. THEY CAN BE A RIGHT REGULAR BUGGER TO PUT ON. Insert 37 expletives anywhere in the above sentence. What I find that I have to do: At the point of contact where the cross chains meet the side loops, MOST of those T joints need to be in between the Tire bars. MOST of the Cross chains must stay in between the tire bars with shortens up the length that the chain must go over the tire. Jack up the tractor and lay the chains over the top of the tire with the joint at the back so you have easy access. The side loop of the chain that does not have the main clip is the one that should be done first. Slide the chain a little bit too far that direction so you can get that one done up. This next part requires either 17 other people, 47 bungee cords, or maybe some mechanics wire. I just have the Paint Department help me. Slide the chain back over towards the side that is not yet attached while you are paying attention to the ends of the Cross chains on the attached side to make sure that they fall in between the tire bars. Often I find that more expletives during the previous step helps. Keep working the chain over and eventually you should catch the main link. I have used a brake drum spring tool to catch those links and put them together. I just pulled an old set outta the box and went through exactly all of that! I ended up putting them on a set of beater rear wheels, next I will try the actual ags, (partially deflated if need be)! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Manic-Mechanic" 1,194 #10 Posted January 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, WVHillbilly520H said: But what I find amusing is how most on here knock AG (lug) tires in snow, then praise the rubber chains but this little snippet is directly from the rubber chains web site... Things that make you go hhmmmm.... I would have half the battle done then! I have on ags on the 312 now! I will put the cleat chains on the ags as well. I run good thin ags on the 18 auto and very rarely get stuck on pavement pushing. (but steer clear of the field or any grass with over three inches!) Front wheels just get snow bound and stop turning, "Stuck" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,310 #11 Posted January 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, oldman said: I just pulled an old set outta the box and went through exactly all of that! I ended up putting them on a set of beater rear wheels, next I will try the actual ags, (partially deflated if need be)! Don't forget the. @#$&+/@&$##. Step. VERY important. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,806 #12 Posted January 5, 2021 36 minutes ago, WVHillbilly520H said: But what I find amusing is how most on here knock AG (lug) tires in snow, then praise the rubber chains but this little snippet is directly from the rubber chains web site... Things that make you go hhmmmm.... I must say, I’ve seen more paddle tires in the sand dunes than angled Ag style tires. They must grab and propel a bit different for that to happen... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #13 Posted January 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, pullstart said: I must say, I’ve seen more paddle tires in the sand dunes than angled Ag style tires. They must grab and propel a bit different for that to happen... Now in "mud bogging/racing" I have seen quite a bit of both with some running an angled bar tread up front and paddles in the back on the same ride... But I was actually referencing the line before that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,674 #14 Posted January 5, 2021 Ag Tires are directional, rubber chains not so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"Manic-Mechanic" 1,194 #15 Posted January 5, 2021 I may just go with the ags alone. The snowfall here is minimal, at best under a foot. Depends on the weight distribution with the snow blower on. I know my sears would run fine with just the ags, and that snowthrower was super heavy on the ST 16. Now that I have all of this wonderful information, thanks to you all, straps will be put on hold, especially at almost 200 bucks a pop! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites