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71_Bronco

Going to be adding a pair of LED lights to my Lawn Ranger, and was looking at some options at the local TSC store this weekend.

 

Was looking at the 3 shown below, as they were nice and small and seemed to have some decent power for their size. They all claim to be waterproof and "outdoor rated".

 

Curious if anybody has used these (or at least this brand) and had good luck. Or if there are any other options, I'm all ears.

 

Also, this is going on a "resto-mod" Lawn Ranger, so it doesn't have to match the exact look of the vintage incandescent lights that WH use to offer.

 

Traveller 20 Watt LED Light

560 claimed lumens

No harness or wiring

Cost: $35

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Traveller 2" Work Light (20 Watts)

560 claimed lumens

Interchangeable colored bezel rings (Green, Silver, Black, Red, Blue)

No Harness or wiring

Cost: $50

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Traveller 3" Work Light (20 Watts)

760 claimed lumens

Wiring harness, switch, and fuse included

Cost: $70

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Maxwell-8

We don't have any of those leds here 

But 1W can produce up to 100 lumens in the highest quality leds, i do think those claimed lumens is rellastic here

High quality leds are intresting if you need a lot of light out of you mower, the charging systems on these small motors can only produce 120-150W

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ebinmaine

If I was going to choose between those three I would seriously consider the top one because it is the least expensive.... BUT...

 

The lower one is going to have a lot more output and comes with its own wiring kit and that's a huge value unless you already have that stuff laying around. 

 

Are all of these prices per pair or per each?

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71_Bronco
1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

If I was going to choose between those three I would seriously consider the top one because it is the least expensive.... BUT...

 

The lower one is going to have a lot more output and comes with its own wiring kit and that's a huge value unless you already have that stuff laying around. 

 

Are all of these prices per pair or per each?


I don't have a dedicated wiring kit on hand, but I will need to build my own wiring harness for this tractor (old motor was a recoil start, new motor will have a battery and a starter/generator, and push-button start).

 

All of the prices listed are for a pair, and the watts listed is total, so each light is 10 watts.

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ebinmaine

I bought a nice little set of (2) 2" round LEDs off of the jungle site after @WHX24 shared the link with me.

 

Seems seems to me they're not as powerful as the ones you've listed above and Mr Jim had kind of indicated they would be better for a backup light but it would depend on preference.

 

Those those were only 22 bucks but that also was without switch and harness etc. 

 

A a decent switch is going to run you 8 to $15 and the wiring, depends on what you have laying around but you could easily spend two or three times that.

 

FYI FYI on the mounting for you here... I was unaware until maybe two or three weeks ago that there is such a thing as magnet mount or flange mount available for these lights.

 

I bought one of each basically to see what they look like and either one would work on a Wheelhorse  just fine.

 

No holes to drill. 

 

 

For the harness I bought a 50-ft roll of seven conductor trailer wire that is full copper with no aluminum. 

Gives you seven different colors to work with and the portion that goes through the fuel tank tray you can keep it wrapped up. Makes for a very nice neat harness.

 

I'd be glad to send you a few feet of that for whatever my cost was 

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JoeM

For me when it comes to lights, more is better. I guess buy as much as you can afford. 

Rural King has a display were you can try different lights. big difference in the lower rated ones. Of course you are in a lit store.

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peter lena

71-BRONCO, think led,s are the way to go, what ever you choose , take the time to improve your LIGHT GROUNDING POINTS ! since adding sreated washers and new wire to ground points along with dielectric grease , to insure conductivity , my electric issues have stopped ! just an idea, pete

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midpack

I had picked up some LED's last summer, finally got around to making a plug in harness for them using the lights toggle switch on Mongo (C-175).

 

I used magnets from tractor Supply to mount them on the hood, my machines are not beauty queens and I like the idea that I can move them from tractor to tractor. 

 

I did not use a separate switch to activate them, but nothing "popped" when I turned on the lights.

 

The led's called for a 5W fuse so I didn't think the draw would be too much. I thought about using a relay, but didn't

 

Think I'll have any problems not using a dedicated led switch?

 

they do make a difference  :)  

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Goofey
2 hours ago, Maxwell-8 said:

We don't have any of those leds here 

But 1W can produce up to 100 lumens in the highest quality leds, i do think those claimed lumens is rellastic here

High quality leds are intresting if you need a lot of light out of you mower, the charging systems on these small motors can only produce 120-150W

 

 

How do you come to that number? Most charging circuits on WH is 15Amp at about 14.4V. My math says it will deliver 216 Watt. If it is a 10 Amp circuit then I follow.

 

And afik best common LED's are in the 140-160 lumens/w range, or am I missing something?

 

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Maxwell-8
9 minutes ago, Goofey said:

 

 

How do you come to that number? Most charging circuits on WH is 15Amp at about 14.4V. My math says it will deliver 216 Watt. If it is a 10 Amp circuit then I follow.

 

True, but most mowers charge at 10 amps and you would want some left for charging the battery or  if you have an electric PTO

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Handy Don
2 minutes ago, Goofey said:

My math says it will deliver 216 Watt

Gotta consider some of that juice going into the battery and some firing the plug :) and that's at full revs, right?

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Goofey

OK so what's considered left to use is about 10 amps worth ?

 

That's still plenty for some pretty bright led's. Heck you could easily put in a set of 55w HID's and get about 10.000 lumens :laughing-rofl: 

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Maxwell-8
Just now, Goofey said:

OK so what's considered left to use is about 10 amps worth ?

 

That's still plenty for some pretty bright led's. Heck you could easily put in a set of 55w HID's and get about 10.000 lumens :laughing-rofl: 

Or get Baja designs! expensive put bright as f* :techie-idea::scared-shocked:

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Goofey

OK, all good, but to be honest it is also perhaps about looks a bit. I would for a lawn ranger go for a set of those chrome Harley type auxiliary lamps and put some bright led bulbs in those. 

 

Or if it is just to get lots of light and looks do not matter, I would just mount a curved lightbar a bit wider than the hood. Crude but effective.

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Maxwell-8
1 minute ago, Goofey said:

OK, all good, but to be honest it is also perhaps about looks a bit. I would for a lawn ranger go for a set of those chrome Harley type auxiliary lamps and put some bright led bulbs in those. 

 

Or if it is just to get lots of light and looks do not matter, I would just mount a curved lightbar a bit wider than the hood. Crude but effective.

Harley lights!

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71_Bronco

Tanks again for all the replies, some great info and things to consider.

 

This tractor will only be a lawn cruiser / trailer puller. I don't plan on using any implements on it. I was considering possibly a front-mount blade, but I don't think that's going to fit once I'm done. Also, this will not have an electric clutch on it.

 

On the $70 set (the brighter ones), current draw per the TSC site is .86 amps at 12 volts. The other two are .56 amps (for the $35 ones), and .61 amps (for the $50 ones). Even with that draw, and lack of other electrical accessories on the tractor, I should be plenty good.

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71_Bronco
2 minutes ago, Goofey said:

OK, all good, but to be honest it is also perhaps about looks a bit. I would for a lawn ranger go for a set of those chrome Harley type auxiliary lamps and put some bright led bulbs in those. 

 

Or if it is just to get lots of light and looks do not matter, I would just mount a curved lightbar a bit wider than the hood. Crude but effective.

 

Now that you mention it, a straight light bar would actually look pretty good where a bumper would go (in front of the frame on the front).

 

These 2 lights are going to be mounted on posts coming off the frame, like the older WH accessory lights (but not a legit WH kit).

 

I'll post a couple pics of the mounts once I get them on the tractor.

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Goofey
9 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said:

Harley lights!

 

Yeah, well I guess they are used on most bikes too. comes in different shapes and sizes. This is just 1 example. https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Daymaker-Reflector-LED-Fog-Lamps-Chrome-Housing/p/68000090

 

They come in cheap knockoff too. 

 

Looks a lot like those sought after chrome OE ones.

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71_Bronco

Stopped in at the local store to really look at the lights. The 2 cheaper ones posted about seem small once I was inspecting them.

 

I took a pic with a standard 2" hitch ball for size reference. The 3" ones look like a good size and I may go with them, especially since they are brighter and come with a harness.

 

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Handy Don
2 hours ago, 71_Bronco said:

Stopped in at the local store to really look at the lights. The 2 cheaper ones posted about seem small once I was inspecting them.

 

I took a pic with a standard 2" hitch ball for size reference. The 3" ones look like a good size and I may go with them, especially since they are brighter and come with a harness.

 

Even very small LEDs can be very bright--in fact, the pinpoint intensity makes it hard to judge the lumens being generated. Where size makes a difference is in the reflectors. Larger accommodates (but does not guarantee!) more shaping to focus the beam into the intended light pattern--flood, spot, or a combination. For high output LEDs, a larger case may diffuse the heat better, though at these outputs that isn't much of a concern.

The other consideration is the color temperature and spectrum. Cheap LEDs tend to have narrow spectrums that lean toward blue and may affect what you see at night.

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oilwell1415

Another thing to consider with cheap LEDs is that they may flicker.  Since they respond much faster than a traditional bulb you can see them flicker as the voltage from the charging system fluctuates.  There are fixes for this, but it's a pain to deal with if you aren't ready for it.

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rjg854

2x 10W CREE LED Spot Light Mini Round Work Lamp for Jeep Offroad Trucks ATV UTV

 

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got these at the bay, 20 bucks, work great and they're not to big

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Maxwell-8
1 hour ago, rjg854 said:

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Nice, but we need a night pic!!:dance:

 

Are they bright is the question?

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