71_Bronco 1,072 #1 Posted January 4, 2021 Going to be adding a pair of LED lights to my Lawn Ranger, and was looking at some options at the local TSC store this weekend. Was looking at the 3 shown below, as they were nice and small and seemed to have some decent power for their size. They all claim to be waterproof and "outdoor rated". Curious if anybody has used these (or at least this brand) and had good luck. Or if there are any other options, I'm all ears. Also, this is going on a "resto-mod" Lawn Ranger, so it doesn't have to match the exact look of the vintage incandescent lights that WH use to offer. Traveller 20 Watt LED Light 560 claimed lumens No harness or wiring Cost: $35 Traveller 2" Work Light (20 Watts) 560 claimed lumens Interchangeable colored bezel rings (Green, Silver, Black, Red, Blue) No Harness or wiring Cost: $50 Traveller 3" Work Light (20 Watts) 760 claimed lumens Wiring harness, switch, and fuse included Cost: $70 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #2 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) We don't have any of those leds here But 1W can produce up to 100 lumens in the highest quality leds, i do think those claimed lumens is rellastic here High quality leds are intresting if you need a lot of light out of you mower, the charging systems on these small motors can only produce 120-150W Edited January 4, 2021 by Maxwell-8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,703 #3 Posted January 4, 2021 If I was going to choose between those three I would seriously consider the top one because it is the least expensive.... BUT... The lower one is going to have a lot more output and comes with its own wiring kit and that's a huge value unless you already have that stuff laying around. Are all of these prices per pair or per each? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #4 Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: If I was going to choose between those three I would seriously consider the top one because it is the least expensive.... BUT... The lower one is going to have a lot more output and comes with its own wiring kit and that's a huge value unless you already have that stuff laying around. Are all of these prices per pair or per each? I don't have a dedicated wiring kit on hand, but I will need to build my own wiring harness for this tractor (old motor was a recoil start, new motor will have a battery and a starter/generator, and push-button start). All of the prices listed are for a pair, and the watts listed is total, so each light is 10 watts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,703 #5 Posted January 4, 2021 I bought a nice little set of (2) 2" round LEDs off of the jungle site after @WHX24 shared the link with me. Seems seems to me they're not as powerful as the ones you've listed above and Mr Jim had kind of indicated they would be better for a backup light but it would depend on preference. Those those were only 22 bucks but that also was without switch and harness etc. A a decent switch is going to run you 8 to $15 and the wiring, depends on what you have laying around but you could easily spend two or three times that. FYI FYI on the mounting for you here... I was unaware until maybe two or three weeks ago that there is such a thing as magnet mount or flange mount available for these lights. I bought one of each basically to see what they look like and either one would work on a Wheelhorse just fine. No holes to drill. For the harness I bought a 50-ft roll of seven conductor trailer wire that is full copper with no aluminum. Gives you seven different colors to work with and the portion that goes through the fuel tank tray you can keep it wrapped up. Makes for a very nice neat harness. I'd be glad to send you a few feet of that for whatever my cost was 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirage276 9 #6 Posted January 4, 2021 My store had these on the clearance rack for $24.99 yesterday, nearly picked up a set but I got the garage stool on clearance instead. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/traveller-4-in-plastic-round-work-light-2-pack-6273-003 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #7 Posted January 4, 2021 For me when it comes to lights, more is better. I guess buy as much as you can afford. Rural King has a display were you can try different lights. big difference in the lower rated ones. Of course you are in a lit store. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,647 #8 Posted January 4, 2021 71-BRONCO, think led,s are the way to go, what ever you choose , take the time to improve your LIGHT GROUNDING POINTS ! since adding sreated washers and new wire to ground points along with dielectric grease , to insure conductivity , my electric issues have stopped ! just an idea, pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midpack 866 #9 Posted January 4, 2021 I had picked up some LED's last summer, finally got around to making a plug in harness for them using the lights toggle switch on Mongo (C-175). I used magnets from tractor Supply to mount them on the hood, my machines are not beauty queens and I like the idea that I can move them from tractor to tractor. I did not use a separate switch to activate them, but nothing "popped" when I turned on the lights. The led's called for a 5W fuse so I didn't think the draw would be too much. I thought about using a relay, but didn't Think I'll have any problems not using a dedicated led switch? they do make a difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goofey 89 #10 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Maxwell-8 said: We don't have any of those leds here But 1W can produce up to 100 lumens in the highest quality leds, i do think those claimed lumens is rellastic here High quality leds are intresting if you need a lot of light out of you mower, the charging systems on these small motors can only produce 120-150W How do you come to that number? Most charging circuits on WH is 15Amp at about 14.4V. My math says it will deliver 216 Watt. If it is a 10 Amp circuit then I follow. And afik best common LED's are in the 140-160 lumens/w range, or am I missing something? Edited January 4, 2021 by Goofey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #11 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Goofey said: How do you come to that number? Most charging circuits on WH is 15Amp at about 14.4V. My math says it will deliver 216 Watt. If it is a 10 Amp circuit then I follow. True, but most mowers charge at 10 amps and you would want some left for charging the battery or if you have an electric PTO Edited January 4, 2021 by Maxwell-8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,249 #12 Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Goofey said: My math says it will deliver 216 Watt Gotta consider some of that juice going into the battery and some firing the plug and that's at full revs, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goofey 89 #13 Posted January 4, 2021 OK so what's considered left to use is about 10 amps worth ? That's still plenty for some pretty bright led's. Heck you could easily put in a set of 55w HID's and get about 10.000 lumens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #14 Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Goofey said: OK so what's considered left to use is about 10 amps worth ? That's still plenty for some pretty bright led's. Heck you could easily put in a set of 55w HID's and get about 10.000 lumens Or get Baja designs! expensive put bright as f* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goofey 89 #15 Posted January 4, 2021 OK, all good, but to be honest it is also perhaps about looks a bit. I would for a lawn ranger go for a set of those chrome Harley type auxiliary lamps and put some bright led bulbs in those. Or if it is just to get lots of light and looks do not matter, I would just mount a curved lightbar a bit wider than the hood. Crude but effective. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #16 Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Goofey said: OK, all good, but to be honest it is also perhaps about looks a bit. I would for a lawn ranger go for a set of those chrome Harley type auxiliary lamps and put some bright led bulbs in those. Or if it is just to get lots of light and looks do not matter, I would just mount a curved lightbar a bit wider than the hood. Crude but effective. Harley lights! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #17 Posted January 4, 2021 Tanks again for all the replies, some great info and things to consider. This tractor will only be a lawn cruiser / trailer puller. I don't plan on using any implements on it. I was considering possibly a front-mount blade, but I don't think that's going to fit once I'm done. Also, this will not have an electric clutch on it. On the $70 set (the brighter ones), current draw per the TSC site is .86 amps at 12 volts. The other two are .56 amps (for the $35 ones), and .61 amps (for the $50 ones). Even with that draw, and lack of other electrical accessories on the tractor, I should be plenty good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #18 Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Goofey said: OK, all good, but to be honest it is also perhaps about looks a bit. I would for a lawn ranger go for a set of those chrome Harley type auxiliary lamps and put some bright led bulbs in those. Or if it is just to get lots of light and looks do not matter, I would just mount a curved lightbar a bit wider than the hood. Crude but effective. Now that you mention it, a straight light bar would actually look pretty good where a bumper would go (in front of the frame on the front). These 2 lights are going to be mounted on posts coming off the frame, like the older WH accessory lights (but not a legit WH kit). I'll post a couple pics of the mounts once I get them on the tractor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goofey 89 #19 Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said: Harley lights! Yeah, well I guess they are used on most bikes too. comes in different shapes and sizes. This is just 1 example. https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Daymaker-Reflector-LED-Fog-Lamps-Chrome-Housing/p/68000090 They come in cheap knockoff too. Looks a lot like those sought after chrome OE ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #20 Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Stopped in at the local store to really look at the lights. The 2 cheaper ones posted about seem small once I was inspecting them. I took a pic with a standard 2" hitch ball for size reference. The 3" ones look like a good size and I may go with them, especially since they are brighter and come with a harness. Edited January 5, 2021 by 71_Bronco 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,249 #21 Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, 71_Bronco said: Stopped in at the local store to really look at the lights. The 2 cheaper ones posted about seem small once I was inspecting them. I took a pic with a standard 2" hitch ball for size reference. The 3" ones look like a good size and I may go with them, especially since they are brighter and come with a harness. Even very small LEDs can be very bright--in fact, the pinpoint intensity makes it hard to judge the lumens being generated. Where size makes a difference is in the reflectors. Larger accommodates (but does not guarantee!) more shaping to focus the beam into the intended light pattern--flood, spot, or a combination. For high output LEDs, a larger case may diffuse the heat better, though at these outputs that isn't much of a concern. The other consideration is the color temperature and spectrum. Cheap LEDs tend to have narrow spectrums that lean toward blue and may affect what you see at night. Edited January 5, 2021 by Handy Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oilwell1415 563 #22 Posted January 5, 2021 Another thing to consider with cheap LEDs is that they may flicker. Since they respond much faster than a traditional bulb you can see them flicker as the voltage from the charging system fluctuates. There are fixes for this, but it's a pain to deal with if you aren't ready for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,389 #23 Posted January 6, 2021 2x 10W CREE LED Spot Light Mini Round Work Lamp for Jeep Offroad Trucks ATV UTV got these at the bay, 20 bucks, work great and they're not to big Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #25 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, rjg854 said: Nice, but we need a night pic!! Are they bright is the question? Edited January 6, 2021 by Maxwell-8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites