WHX?? 48,834 #26 Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 953 nut said: That saying is so old it was around when I was a kid! Been a lot of candles bit the dust since then. Correct usage Richard is "that saying is as old as the crust in my shorts" Can be readily adapted to "that tractor or that truck" or any thing else old. 'Nother nice thing is it can be adapted to " Dan's motor is about as worn out as the crust in my shorts". Glad to see Dan finally laundered his shorts! Good old sayings just never get old! Edited January 7, 2021 by WHX24 speeling & gramma 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,343 #27 Posted January 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, WHX24 said: as old as the crust in my shorts" 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,623 #28 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) A little happy report on this post - 17 days & 1000 miles and life seems good so far. Tonight I dumped the oil & filter. Oil looked good with no "Lucky Oil" metallic flecks in it. Replaced the filter & but 7 new Qts of Mobil 1 in. I plan to run 3000 miles on this oil change and then go back to my 5000 mile cycle of oil changes. Back story on the "Lucky Oil" comment - I know a guy who has well over 200k on a Caravan. He pulled the dip stick one day to check his oil & I could see metallic flecks on the dip stick. I asked "When is the last time that you changed that?" His reply was "Change it ?!?! That's my Lucky Oil, you can't buy oil with gold flecks in it like this". I had no reply. I'm still not sure if he was kidding or not. And yes, he's still driving it. Edited January 12, 2021 by Achto 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,834 #29 Posted January 13, 2021 Good to hear....guessing you running syn? 20 minutes ago, Achto said: That's my Lucky Oil, you can't buy oil with gold flecks in it like this". Tell the guy to dump a bottle of that schnapps with the gold flakes in it! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,623 #30 Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, WHX24 said: guessing you running syn? Yep Mobil 1 synthetic. This can be used for a break in oil. Amsoil on the other hand can not be used for a break in oil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,834 #31 Posted January 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Achto said: Amsoil on the other hand can not be used for a break in oil. Why is that? I don't think I have ever used Amsoil products.... let's too many moths out the wallet I guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,623 #32 Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, WHX24 said: I don't think I have ever used Amsoil products.... let's too many moths out the wallet I guess. Amsoil will definitely clean your wallet out that's for sure. As for a break in oil well, it's actually too slippery and will not let the rings wear in. True story: I had a customer at the bike shop that ran Amsoil in his Evo bagger from 5k on. I did a base gasket job on it at 115k and the cylinders showed almost 0 wear. The cross hatch looked like it was put in that day. I did not slip the pistons out of the jugs to do the base gaskets so there was no need to change the rings. Last time I saw the bike it had 150k on it with the original pistons & rings. Edited January 13, 2021 by Achto 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,834 #33 Posted January 13, 2021 Hard to believe but lost me Dan... by base gaskets do you mean the jug to case ones? How is that posiible without lifting the jugs or cutting the base gasket? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,623 #34 Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, WHX24 said: by base gaskets do you mean the jug to case ones? How is that posiible without lifting the jugs or cutting the base gasket? Yes the jug to case gasket. You just gotta have talent. After unbolting the head, you slide the jug up until you can access the wrist pin on the piston. Then you remove the wrist pin and leave the piston in the jug. This way you do not disturb the ring placement and there is no reason to replace them. This is if the cylinder did not look bad. Saved the customer some coin and they did not have to go through the hassle of breaking in new rings. On the the other hand, if you pulled the jug up too far and slipped the piston out then the cylinder had to be re-scuffed and new rings installed at a minimum. Evo's were well known for base gasket leaks, some with less than 5k miles on them. I can't even begin to count how many bikes I used this procedure on. Edited January 13, 2021 by Achto 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,834 #35 Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Achto said: slide the jug up until you can access the wrist pin on the piston. Ahhh yes I see now! I woulda never though of that in a zillion years! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites