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rjg854

I recently bought a supposedly rebuilt transmission for the 854. I installed it and it all works, except that all but 3rd gear has lots of noise.  So my question is what would cause this, and then what is the solution. I know it's going to have to be opened up. I'm thinking something must be in the wrong spot. Has anyone experienced this type of situation?

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stevasaurus

Hi Randy.  :greetings-wavingyellow:  Before you drop that transmission, put it on blocks and use a long screw driver (like a stethoscope) and touch it in various areas especially where the bearings are.  There is a reason that the other guy "rebuilt" the trans.  He may not have noticed or didn't know that he had a bad bearing.  Odds are that is what is making the noise.  3rd gear goes fast enough that it may not make noise??  Those are the transmissions that I like to open...tells me a lot about the other guy.  Pictures and updates if you would Sir.  :occasion-xmas:

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rjg854

Steve :text-thankyoublue: I'll be sure to do that, before I put the original transmission back in. I only changed it because this one was "rebuilt", and seeing I have 2 other tractors with the same transmission an extra one might be a good idea.

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953 nut

Randy, my guess would be that the 3522 gear (input shaft) has a needle bearing inside of it that feels the pressure when in any gear other than third. When you are in third gear the 3522 gear and the 3523 gear are made up and the shaft is rotating at the same speed as the gears so the bearing has no load applied to it.          Please don't ask how I would know about this.     :hide:           Also, don't ask how many times I had it apart before I figured it out.

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stevasaurus

An excellent choice for the bad bearing Richard.  :orcs-cheers:

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squonk

Randy will have all his projects done before he retires! :occasion-xmas:

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Handy Don
24 minutes ago, squonk said:

Randy will have all his projects done before he retires! :occasion-xmas:

I didn't

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WHX??

You get it apart Randy I got some of those bearings I can send ya...they came out of this transmission... :)

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squonk
38 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

You get it apart Randy I got some of those bearings I can send ya...they came out of this transmission... :)

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Make sure you wash them first! naughty.gif.334c9f9aa724f91316ec431c327f156e.gif

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rjg854

Thanks @953 nut, that's pretty much what I was looking for. Someone with experience with this problem. If this is what the problem is, it puts me in a good starting direction. I've never opened a transmission, so as Mike mentioned, when I officially retire, this would be a good project. Along with the 2 engines I have sitting here with broken rods. My new job will be the newly established RJG Stables  :ychain:

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953 nut
2 hours ago, squonk said:

Randy will have all his projects done before he retires! :occasion-xmas:

Once he (and most of us) retires it is time to begin acquiring more projects. Otherwise your significant other will find lots of honey-dos. 

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rjg854

:text-yeahthat: you got that right Richard, I do have to remodel the bathroom for her, but I "plan" on playing with tractors with a lot of my time.

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squonk
34 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

Once he (and most of us) retires it is time to begin acquiring more projects. Otherwise your significant other will find lots of honey-dos. 

That's why you hang out drinking coffee at Burger King for 4 hours! :lol:

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wallfish
2 hours ago, WHX24 said:

You get it apart Randy I got some of those bearings I can send ya...they came out of this transmission... :)

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They do have a nice patina

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rjg854
2 hours ago, WHX24 said:

You get it apart Randy I got some of those bearings I can send ya...they came out of this transmission... :)

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If you can get it out, right :laughing-rolling:

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953 nut
40 minutes ago, squonk said:

hang out drinking coffee at Burger King for 4 hours!

:no:    I have never been that bored and never will.    Too many worthwhile volunteer opportunities out there where you can pay-it-forward and make a difference.      :handgestures-thumbupleft:

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stevasaurus

This is why I am not a huge fan of just flushing out a transmission that you know nothing about.  :eusa-think:  No amount of flushing is going to clean this one out.

 

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